(fwd) Re: [SLE] sendmail config with several Kmail accounts
On Tue, 03 Sep 2002, Ben just had to get this off his chest:
No problem. :)
Sendmail on a single user machine is more for things like system messages or in the case that your using something that doesn't do SMTP relaying itself..such as Mutt or Pine. I would say 9-10 GUI email clients like KMail, Mozilla or Evolution can use the ISP relay.
Those progs can talk to one single SMTP client, yes, but when you e.g. have a less-then-hifi ISP mail gateway (yahoo, hotmail) then it is really usefull to have your own MTA that knows MX and knows how to deliver mail directly. Also when you don't like POP (passwords in plain over the line), and you want to receive mail directly the said MUA's won't help. The foremost advantage of having your own MTA running is that you control 100% of what goes in and out (spam, virusses). I personally would recommend Postfix though, much easier to setup (specially when you don't have a plain vanilla setup), and a very active developer. Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven ICBM 52 8 24N , 4 32 40E. SuSE 7.3 x86 Kernel 2.4.16-4GB See headers for PGP/GPG info.
* Theo v. Werkhoven (twe-suse.e@ferrets4me.xs4all.nl) [020904 07:50]: :: ::Those progs can talk to one single SMTP client, yes, but when you e.g. ::have a less-then-hifi ISP mail gateway (yahoo, hotmail) then it is ::really usefull to have your own MTA that knows MX and knows how to ::deliver mail directly. ::Also when you don't like POP (passwords in plain over the line), and ::you want to receive mail directly the said MUA's won't help. The ::foremost advantage of having your own MTA running is that you control ::100% of what goes in and out (spam, virusses). ::I personally would recommend Postfix though, much easier to setup ::(specially when you don't have a plain vanilla setup), and a very ::active developer. Yes, but if one doesn't know how to set it up and it's setup badly then it makes no difference at all. All the control in the world without the knowledge to make it work properly can just get you in trouble...look at King George Wubja..he's got lots of power and control but has little idea how to make it work. ;) Sendmail isn't hard to setup these days...and I'm not sure what your talking about as far as active development. Sendmail is actively developed..and I don't have much of an issue with Sendmail developers since I know most of the Sr. developers at Sendmail in Emeryville, CA. *grin* Cheers! -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org Tell me what you believe.. I tell you what you should see.
On Wed, 04 Sep 2002, Ben just had to get this off his chest:
* Theo v. Werkhoven (twe-suse.e@ferrets4me.xs4all.nl) [020904 07:50]: :: ::Those progs can talk to one single SMTP client, yes, but when you e.g. ::have a less-then-hifi ISP mail gateway (yahoo, hotmail) then it is ::really usefull to have your own MTA that knows MX and knows how to ::deliver mail directly. ::Also when you don't like POP (passwords in plain over the line), and ::you want to receive mail directly the said MUA's won't help. The ::foremost advantage of having your own MTA running is that you control ::100% of what goes in and out (spam, virusses). ::I personally would recommend Postfix though, much easier to setup ::(specially when you don't have a plain vanilla setup), and a very ::active developer.
Yes, but if one doesn't know how to set it up and it's setup badly then it makes no difference at all. All the control in the world without the knowledge to make it work properly can just get you in trouble...look at
To get into trouble with a mail setup you don't even need to dick around with Sendmail or Postfix or another MTA. Contemporary GUI mail clients with all their options to mess things up keep lost of people occupied.
King George Wubja..he's got lots of power and control but has little idea how to make it work. ;)
Is he on the Sendmail team also? ;-P
Sendmail isn't hard to setup these days...and I'm not sure what your talking about as far as active development. Sendmail is actively developed..and I don't have much of an issue with Sendmail developers since I know most of the Sr. developers at Sendmail in Emeryville, CA.
It's been some time since the last major problem with any *nix MTA, so development tends to stay in the background and not come out unless you're subscribed to a mailinglist or something.
Cheers!
CU Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven ICBM 52 8 24N , 4 32 40E. SuSE 7.3 x86 Kernel 2.4.16-4GB See headers for PGP/GPG info.
* Ben Rosenberg
* Theo v. Werkhoven (twe-suse.e@ferrets4me.xs4all.nl) [020904 07:50]: :: ::Those progs can talk to one single SMTP client, yes, but when you e.g.
Yes, but if one doesn't know how to set it up and it's setup badly then it makes no difference at all. All the control in the world without the knowledge to make it work properly can just get you in trouble...look at King George Wubja..he's got lots of power and control but has little idea how to make it work. ;)
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* SuSEnixER (WideGlide@MyRealBox.com) [020904 17:24]:
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