[opensuse] 13.1 optical intelli-mouse driver input issue - cursor shoots to bottom of screen when lifted
All, On my new 13.1 install on my tosiba laptop, I am getting strange behavior out of the optical mouse. MS inteli-mouse - normal 3 button + wheel. When the mouse is lifter off the pad, the cursor begins jumping around quite noticeably. It shakes up and down about 1/2 to 1 inch vertically as it works itself down the page at a fairly rapid pace. For some reason it looks like the Y-axis goes nuts when the mouse is lifted. This makes it quite difficult to reposition the mouse on the pad. Lifting the mouse about 1/2 inch off the pad and the cursor takes off like a rocket to the bottom of the screen. Can anybody else confirm? I also have the synaptics touchpad driver 'syndaemon` loaded to disable the touchpad while typing. I have used syndaemon for years and never had this type of issue before. Strange. Does anyone recall how to capture the X and Y axis values? It would be nice to grab data in the event this becomes a bug report. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 15/07/14 15:17, David C. Rankin wrote:
All,
On my new 13.1 install on my tosiba laptop, I am getting strange behavior out of the optical mouse. MS inteli-mouse - normal 3 button + wheel. When the mouse is lifter off the pad, the cursor begins jumping around quite noticeably. It shakes up and down about 1/2 to 1 inch vertically as it works itself down the page at a fairly rapid pace.
For some reason it looks like the Y-axis goes nuts when the mouse is lifted. This makes it quite difficult to reposition the mouse on the pad. Lifting the mouse about 1/2 inch off the pad and the cursor takes off like a rocket to the bottom of the screen.
Can anybody else confirm? I also have the synaptics touchpad driver 'syndaemon` loaded to disable the touchpad while typing. I have used syndaemon for years and never had this type of issue before. Strange.
Does anyone recall how to capture the X and Y axis values? It would be nice to grab data in the event this becomes a bug report.
You ARE having some hassles, aren't you? :-) I don't have this problem with the mouse on my laptop (Lenovo). Nor do I use any "driver" to disable the touchpad on the laptop - this is done in the bios where I disabled the pad but, of course, your Toshiba may not have this ability to do this using the bios. (You do say above that you have a "new 13.1 install" but is it really a FRESH install or an upgrade from (?)12.3? If latter, any old baggage being carried by 13.1?) BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.13.2 & kernel 3.15.5-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/15/2014 01:08 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
You ARE having some hassles, aren't you? :-)
I don't have this problem with the mouse on my laptop (Lenovo).
Nor do I use any "driver" to disable the touchpad on the laptop - this is done in the bios where I disabled the pad but, of course, your Toshiba may not have this ability to do this using the bios.
(You do say above that you have a "new 13.1 install" but is it really a FRESH install or an upgrade from (?)12.3? If latter, any old baggage being carried by 13.1?)
No this is a BRAND NEW PUT THE NEW HARD DRIVE IN THE COMPUTER, PUT THE NET-INSTALL IN THE DVD -- AND CHOOSE INSTALL! The only thing I did *after* the install was copy my /home from old 11.4 install to new 13.1 install. everything else is brand spanking new 13.1... Strange stuff, but slowly -- very slowly -- I'm wading through it. I just knew it would take 30+ hours to go through this, that's why I really put it off as long as I could :) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 15/07/14 17:04, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 07/15/2014 01:08 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
You ARE having some hassles, aren't you? :-)
I don't have this problem with the mouse on my laptop (Lenovo).
Nor do I use any "driver" to disable the touchpad on the laptop - this is done in the bios where I disabled the pad but, of course, your Toshiba may not have this ability to do this using the bios.
(You do say above that you have a "new 13.1 install" but is it really a FRESH install or an upgrade from (?)12.3? If latter, any old baggage being carried by 13.1?)
No this is a BRAND NEW PUT THE NEW HARD DRIVE IN THE COMPUTER, PUT THE NET-INSTALL IN THE DVD -- AND CHOOSE INSTALL!
The only thing I did *after* the install was copy my /home from old 11.4 install to new 13.1 install. everything else is brand spanking new 13.1...
*THIS* is what I was after! You have transferred old and outdated baggage in your /home from the 11.4 install to the new - FRESH- install of 13.1! The only things which I transfer from my /home to a NEW, FRESH installation are the /.mozilla, /.thunderbird, /Documents, and possibly /Downloads directories. The rest stay behind as they ALWAYS cause problems - especially as you have skipped *three* (3) versions and by jumping from 11.4 to 13.1.
Strange stuff, but slowly -- very slowly -- I'm wading through it. I just knew it would take 30+ hours to go through this, that's why I really put it off as long as I could :)
BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.13.2 & kernel 3.15.5-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/15/2014 02:18 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
You have transferred old and outdated baggage in your /home from the 11.4 install to the new - FRESH- install of 13.1!
The only things which I transfer from my /home to a NEW, FRESH installation are the /.mozilla, /.thunderbird, /Documents, and possibly /Downloads directories. The rest stay behind as they ALWAYS cause problems - especially as you have skipped *three* (3) versions and by jumping from 11.4 to 13.1.
Well - sort of. I didn't copy the entire /home. Much like you I copied /.mozilla, /.thunderbird, /Documents and I copied ~/.kde, ~/.config, ~/.fluxbox, ~/.gnupg, and ~/.ssh. None of those should cause issues with acpi, or firefox, or unwanted apps running in the background. I see you point, but I only copied the baggage I needed. (not much has changed in kde3 :) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/15/2014 02:38 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 07/15/2014 02:18 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
You have transferred old and outdated baggage in your /home from the 11.4 install to the new - FRESH- install of 13.1!
The only things which I transfer from my /home to a NEW, FRESH installation are the /.mozilla, /.thunderbird, /Documents, and possibly /Downloads directories. The rest stay behind as they ALWAYS cause problems - especially as you have skipped *three* (3) versions and by jumping from 11.4 to 13.1.
Well - sort of. I didn't copy the entire /home. Much like you I copied /.mozilla, /.thunderbird, /Documents and I copied ~/.kde, ~/.config, ~/.fluxbox, ~/.gnupg, and ~/.ssh.
None of those should cause issues with acpi, or firefox, or unwanted apps running in the background. I see you point, but I only copied the baggage I needed. (not much has changed in kde3 :)
After disabling all the unwanted services left over from install: $ l1 /etc/xdg/autostart/junk at-spi-dbus-bus.desktop gmixer-trayicon.desktop gnome-keyring-gpg.desktop gnome-keyring-pkcs11.desktop gnome-keyring-secrets.desktop gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop gnome-settings-daemon.desktop gsynaptics-init.desktop hplip-systray.desktop nautilus-autostart.desktop nm-applet.desktop parcellite-startup.desktop polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1.desktop print-applet.desktop tracker-miner-fs.desktop tracker-store.desktop user-dirs-update-gtk.desktop xfce4-power-manager.desktop The mouse is working fine! -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/15/2014 02:45 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
After disabling all the unwanted services left over from install:
$ l1 /etc/xdg/autostart/junk
<snip>
gsynaptics-init.desktop
I suspect gsynaptics was the cause of the mouse problem. Since syndaemon runw synaptics, the leftover gnome version was probably fighting with it for control of the touchpad.... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 15/07/14 17:38, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 07/15/2014 02:18 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
You have transferred old and outdated baggage in your /home from the 11.4 install to the new - FRESH- install of 13.1!
The only things which I transfer from my /home to a NEW, FRESH installation are the /.mozilla, /.thunderbird, /Documents, and possibly /Downloads directories. The rest stay behind as they ALWAYS cause problems - especially as you have skipped *three* (3) versions and by jumping from 11.4 to 13.1.
Well - sort of. I didn't copy the entire /home. Much like you I copied /.mozilla, /.thunderbird, /Documents and I copied ~/.kde, ~/.config, ~/.fluxbox, ~/.gnupg, and ~/.ssh.
None of those should cause issues with acpi, or firefox, or unwanted apps running in the background. I see you point, but I only copied the baggage I needed. (not much has changed in kde3 :)
It is precisely these that cause all the problems! "...copied ~/.kde, ~/.config, ~/.fluxbox, ~/.gnupg, and ~/.ssh." in particular the first 2. There have been some substantial changes in oS since 11.4 and what is in .kde and .config may now not apply -- this is what I have been referring to as "old and outdated baggage". Get rid of these and let 13.1 create them anew! As I said, keep the old /.mozilla, /.thunderbird, /Documents, /Downloads, and any other directory which has material which you just don't want to lose but do NOT keep /.kde, /.config and similar because doing so creates only problems (of which you have quite a few :-) ) . BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.13.2 & kernel 3.15.5-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/15/2014 01:17 AM, David C. Rankin pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
All,
On my new 13.1 install on my tosiba laptop, I am getting strange behavior out of the optical mouse. MS inteli-mouse - normal 3 button + wheel. When the mouse is lifter off the pad, the cursor begins jumping around quite noticeably. It shakes up and down about 1/2 to 1 inch vertically as it works itself down the page at a fairly rapid pace.
For some reason it looks like the Y-axis goes nuts when the mouse is lifted. This makes it quite difficult to reposition the mouse on the pad. Lifting the mouse about 1/2 inch off the pad and the cursor takes off like a rocket to the bottom of the screen.
Can anybody else confirm? I also have the synaptics touchpad driver 'syndaemon` loaded to disable the touchpad while typing. I have used syndaemon for years and never had this type of issue before. Strange.
Does anyone recall how to capture the X and Y axis values? It would be nice to grab data in the event this becomes a bug report.
Hi David, Good to see you back on the list. I have a fairly new Toshiba that does not show this behavior. But I use Logitech optical mice. If you have a different brand optical you would be able to test if it is the mouse or a setting somewhere in KDE that is causing the problem. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/15/2014 09:02 AM, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
Hi David,
Good to see you back on the list.
I have a fairly new Toshiba that does not show this behavior. But I use Logitech optical mice. If you have a different brand optical you would be able to test if it is the mouse or a setting somewhere in KDE that is causing the problem.
Thanks Ken, It turns out that when installing from the NET-Install to LXDE, the 13.1 installer creates and leaves running the following in /etc/xdg/autostart: 13:29 alchemy:~> l1 /etc/xdg/autostart/junk/ at-spi-dbus-bus.desktop gmixer-trayicon.desktop gnome-keyring-gpg.desktop gnome-keyring-pkcs11.desktop gnome-keyring-secrets.desktop gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop gnome-settings-daemon.desktop gsynaptics-init.desktop ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ hplip-systray.desktop nautilus-autostart.desktop nm-applet.desktop parcellite-startup.desktop polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1.desktop print-applet.desktop tracker-miner-fs.desktop tracker-store.desktop user-dirs-update-gtk.desktop xfce4-power-manager.desktop Since my config uses *syndaemon* from xf86-input-synaptics to disable the touchpad, I suspect the leftover *gsynaptics* and *syndaemon* were both fighting over the touchpad causing spurious signal on the mouse bus. Getting rid of all the unwanted autostart apps from install completely cured the problem. SuSEconfig (or similar in the systemctl world) should really take care of disabling all this stuff when there is a change of WM or DM so you do not have all of theses stray and potentially conflicting applications left running. Now don't get me wrong, I agree with the selection of these applications for the LXDE setup, it was really quite good, but the DM has got to be smart enough to turn them back off when not needed or on change of DM. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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