Re: [SLE] KDE 3.3 is Out -- Taking the Plunge (?)
Hi, I need to correct these instructions. There's a serious flaw To install this new release via the YaST installer mechanism, follow this general procedure:
1) Launch the YaST Control Center: KDE Launch Menut -> System -> YaST. 2) Click "Change Source of Installation" 3) Click "Add" and seelct "FTP..." from the pop-up menu that appears. 4) In the resulting dialog, add the server name "ftp.gwdg.de" and the directory name
"/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.1/yast-source"
and click "OK". Once the YaST software confirms the suitability of this network location as a source for installation you'll be back in the YaST Control Center. 5) Click "Install and Remove Software" 6) From the "Filter:" pop-up menu in the upper-left of the installer window, choose "Package Groups". 7) Scroll down to the "System" category and expand it (click the little plus sign) and then similarly expand the "GUI" category and click "KDE"
Up to here, everything is OK (as far as I can tell...). However, this part:
Now in the list on the upper right you'll see all the packages in this group. Many of these packages will be shown in blue and should have check-marks in the box at the left. Scroll if necessary to the right to see the version numbers. The checked / blue packages should show a newer version number than the installed version (if any) and in many cases (though not necessarily all) those version numbers will be 3.3.0-n.
... is seriously flawed. Let me try again: The blue entries are those for which a newer version is availble. However, as shown, those packages _will not_ be updated. To get all the newer packages installed: 8) Select the menu command Packge -> All in This List -> Update if Newer Version Available. After doing this, you'll see green/black lightening bolt icons in the packages that have been superceded by the KDE 3.3 release and which will be updated if you proceed.
Now, if you want to install KDE 3.3, click the "Accept" button in the lower right corner of the window.
Sorry for the initial misinformation! Randall Schulz On Thursday 19 August 2004 09:58, Martin Love wrote:
On Thursday 19 August 2004 18:32, Randall R Schulz wrote: Hi Randall,
I'm new to Linux and SuSE. Could you give me more detailed instructions on installing KDE 3.3 via YaST2. I don't know how to add the "yast-sourse" etc...
Thanks inadvance for your help.
Martin
I tried the instructions given. But when I click on 'Accept' I get about
a million dependancy conflicts. They all seem to boil down to
'libjack.so' not being available.
Any ideas how to proceed?
Thanks
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Adam Cooper writes:
I tried the instructions given. But when I click on 'Accept' I get about a million dependancy conflicts. They all seem to boil down to 'libjack.so' not being available.
Any ideas how to proceed?
Install the jack-0.94.0-71 package from your SuSE Linux 9.1 CD. (That is, I assume you have 9.1) -Ti
Cheers. Got it. I had turned off my 9.1 mirror when I added the update
mirror. My oops.
Thanks
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error report< The diagnostics is: /opt/kde3/lib/libkfontinst.so.0: undefined symbol: FTC_SBit_Cache_Lookup Possible reasons: An error occurred during your last KDE upgrade leaving an orphaned control module You have old third party modules lying around. Check these points carefully and try to remove the module mentioned in the error message. If this fails, consider contacting your distributor or
Excellent instructions. Thank you The only error I have found is with the font installer in Kcontrol centre. packager. Any help with this please. On Thursday 19 August 2004 18:23, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Hi,
I need to correct these instructions. There's a serious flaw
To install this new release via the YaST installer mechanism, follow this
general procedure:
1) Launch the YaST Control Center: KDE Launch Menut -> System -> YaST. 2) Click "Change Source of Installation" 3) Click "Add" and seelct "FTP..." from the pop-up menu that appears. 4) In the resulting dialog, add the server name "ftp.gwdg.de" and the directory name
"/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.1/ya st-source"
and click "OK". Once the YaST software confirms the suitability of this network location as a source for installation you'll be back in the YaST Control Center. 5) Click "Install and Remove Software" 6) From the "Filter:" pop-up menu in the upper-left of the installer window, choose "Package Groups". 7) Scroll down to the "System" category and expand it (click the little plus sign) and then similarly expand the "GUI" category and click "KDE"
Up to here, everything is OK (as far as I can tell...). However, this
part:
Now in the list on the upper right you'll see all the packages in this group. Many of these packages will be shown in blue and should have check-marks in the box at the left. Scroll if necessary to the right to see the version numbers. The checked / blue packages should show a newer version number than the installed version (if any) and in many cases (though not necessarily all) those version numbers will be 3.3.0-n.
... is seriously flawed. Let me try again:
The blue entries are those for which a newer version is availble. However, as shown, those packages _will not_ be updated. To get all the newer packages installed:
8) Select the menu command Packge -> All in This List -> Update if Newer Version Available.
After doing this, you'll see green/black lightening bolt icons in the packages that have been superceded by the KDE 3.3 release and which will be updated if you proceed.
Now, if you want to install KDE 3.3, click the "Accept" button in the lower right corner of the window.
Sorry for the initial misinformation!
Randall Schulz
On Thursday 19 August 2004 09:58, Martin Love wrote:
On Thursday 19 August 2004 18:32, Randall R Schulz wrote: Hi Randall,
I'm new to Linux and SuSE. Could you give me more detailed instructions on installing KDE 3.3 via YaST2. I don't know how to add the "yast-sourse" etc...
Thanks inadvance for your help.
Martin
Dont know if this helps but I have /opt/kde3/lib/libkfontinst.so /opt/kde3/lib/libkfontinst.so.0 /opt/kde3/lib/libkfontinst.so.0.0.0 On Friday 20 August 2004 11:02, I wrote:
Excellent instructions. Thank you
The only error I have found is with the font installer in Kcontrol centre.
error report<
The diagnostics is: /opt/kde3/lib/libkfontinst.so.0: undefined symbol: FTC_SBit_Cache_Lookup Possible reasons: An error occurred during your last KDE upgrade leaving an orphaned control module You have old third party modules lying around. Check these points carefully and try to remove the module mentioned in the error message. If this fails, consider contacting your distributor or packager.
Any help with this please.
On Thursday 19 August 2004 18:23, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Hi,
I need to correct these instructions. There's a serious flaw
To install this new release via the YaST installer mechanism, follow this
general procedure:
1) Launch the YaST Control Center: KDE Launch Menut -> System -> YaST. 2) Click "Change Source of Installation" 3) Click "Add" and seelct "FTP..." from the pop-up menu that appears. 4) In the resulting dialog, add the server name "ftp.gwdg.de" and the directory name
"/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.1/ ya st-source"
and click "OK". Once the YaST software confirms the suitability of this network location as a source for installation you'll be back in the YaST Control Center. 5) Click "Install and Remove Software" 6) From the "Filter:" pop-up menu in the upper-left of the installer window, choose "Package Groups". 7) Scroll down to the "System" category and expand it (click the little plus sign) and then similarly expand the "GUI" category and click "KDE"
Up to here, everything is OK (as far as I can tell...). However, this
part:
Now in the list on the upper right you'll see all the packages in this group. Many of these packages will be shown in blue and should have check-marks in the box at the left. Scroll if necessary to the right to see the version numbers. The checked / blue packages should show a newer version number than the installed version (if any) and in many cases (though not necessarily all) those version numbers will be 3.3.0-n.
... is seriously flawed. Let me try again:
The blue entries are those for which a newer version is availble. However, as shown, those packages _will not_ be updated. To get all the newer packages installed:
8) Select the menu command Packge -> All in This List -> Update if Newer Version Available.
After doing this, you'll see green/black lightening bolt icons in the packages that have been superceded by the KDE 3.3 release and which will be updated if you proceed.
Now, if you want to install KDE 3.3, click the "Accept" button in the lower right corner of the window.
Sorry for the initial misinformation!
Randall Schulz
On Thursday 19 August 2004 09:58, Martin Love wrote:
On Thursday 19 August 2004 18:32, Randall R Schulz wrote: Hi Randall,
I'm new to Linux and SuSE. Could you give me more detailed instructions on installing KDE 3.3 via YaST2. I don't know how to add the "yast-sourse" etc...
Thanks inadvance for your help.
Martin
I exchanged some mails with Mike Fabian (mfabian on suse people) about the issue. The problem, from his words, is: "I believe the problem is that freetype 2.1.9 is not completely binary compatible to 2.1.7. As far as I know, it is binary compatible as far as the public API is concerned, but unfortunately some applications used internal freetype functions which have been changed. I.e. that is most likely a bug in the KDE fontinstaller, it shouldn't have used private freetype functions. As the above problem doesn't occur on the current development version of SuSE where all the KDE libraries are compiled against freetype 2.1.9, I think it is likely that the problem would go away on SuSE 9.1 if the programs causing problems were recompiled against freetype 2.1.9. Unfortunately this isn't easy for you and I also cannot easily supply updated versions of all KDE libraries." You can revert to the old freetype libraries. Bye Alle 12:41, venerdì 20 agosto 2004, David Chapman ha scritto:
Dont know if this helps but I have /opt/kde3/lib/libkfontinst.so /opt/kde3/lib/libkfontinst.so.0 /opt/kde3/lib/libkfontinst.so.0.0.0
On Friday 20 August 2004 11:02, I wrote:
Excellent instructions. Thank you
The only error I have found is with the font installer in Kcontrol centre.
error report<
The diagnostics is: /opt/kde3/lib/libkfontinst.so.0: undefined symbol: FTC_SBit_Cache_Lookup Possible reasons: An error occurred during your last KDE upgrade leaving an orphaned control module You have old third party modules lying around. Check these points carefully and try to remove the module mentioned in the error message. If this fails, consider contacting your distributor or packager.
Any help with this please.
On Thursday 19 August 2004 18:23, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Hi,
I need to correct these instructions. There's a serious flaw
To install this new release via the YaST installer mechanism, follow this
general procedure:
1) Launch the YaST Control Center: KDE Launch Menut -> System -> YaST. 2) Click "Change Source of Installation" 3) Click "Add" and seelct "FTP..." from the pop-up menu that appears. 4) In the resulting dialog, add the server name "ftp.gwdg.de" and the directory name
"/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9. 1/ ya st-source"
and click "OK". Once the YaST software confirms the suitability of this network location as a source for installation you'll be back in the YaST Control Center. 5) Click "Install and Remove Software" 6) From the "Filter:" pop-up menu in the upper-left of the installer window, choose "Package Groups". 7) Scroll down to the "System" category and expand it (click the little plus sign) and then similarly expand the "GUI" category and click "KDE"
Up to here, everything is OK (as far as I can tell...). However, this
part:
Now in the list on the upper right you'll see all the packages in this group. Many of these packages will be shown in blue and should have check-marks in the box at the left. Scroll if necessary to the right to see the version numbers. The checked / blue packages should show a newer version number than the installed version (if any) and in many cases (though not necessarily all) those version numbers will be 3.3.0-n.
... is seriously flawed. Let me try again:
The blue entries are those for which a newer version is availble. However, as shown, those packages _will not_ be updated. To get all the newer packages installed:
8) Select the menu command Packge -> All in This List -> Update if Newer Version Available.
After doing this, you'll see green/black lightening bolt icons in the packages that have been superceded by the KDE 3.3 release and which will be updated if you proceed.
Now, if you want to install KDE 3.3, click the "Accept" button in the lower right corner of the window.
Sorry for the initial misinformation!
Randall Schulz
On Thursday 19 August 2004 09:58, Martin Love wrote:
On Thursday 19 August 2004 18:32, Randall R Schulz wrote: Hi Randall,
I'm new to Linux and SuSE. Could you give me more detailed instructions on installing KDE 3.3 via YaST2. I don't know how to add the "yast-sourse" etc...
Thanks inadvance for your help.
Martin
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On Monday 23 August 2004 08:24, Luca Botti wrote:
I exchanged some mails with Mike Fabian (mfabian on suse people) about the issue.
The problem, from his words, is:
"I believe the problem is that freetype 2.1.9 is not completely binary compatible to 2.1.7. As far as I know, it is binary compatible as far as the public API is concerned, but unfortunately some applications used internal freetype functions which have been changed. I.e. that is most likely a bug in the KDE fontinstaller, it shouldn't have used private freetype functions.
As the above problem doesn't occur on the current development version of SuSE where all the KDE libraries are compiled against freetype 2.1.9, I think it is likely that the problem would go away on SuSE 9.1 if the programs causing problems were recompiled against freetype 2.1.9. Unfortunately this isn't easy for you and I also cannot easily supply updated versions of all KDE libraries."
You can revert to the old freetype libraries.
Bye
I,ve down graded freetype to version 2.1.7 using apt and Kfontinstaller works now.
Luca, On Monday 23 August 2004 00:24, Luca Botti wrote:
I exchanged some mails with Mike Fabian (mfabian on suse people) about the issue.
The problem, from his words, is:
"I believe the problem is that freetype 2.1.9 is not completely binary compatible to 2.1.7. As far as I know, it is binary compatible as far as the public API is concerned, but unfortunately some applications used internal freetype functions which have been changed. I.e. that is most likely a bug in the KDE fontinstaller, it shouldn't have used private freetype functions.
As the above problem doesn't occur on the current development version of SuSE where all the KDE libraries are compiled against freetype 2.1.9, I think it is likely that the problem would go away on SuSE 9.1 if the programs causing problems were recompiled against freetype 2.1.9. Unfortunately this isn't easy for you and I also cannot easily supply updated versions of all KDE libraries."
You can revert to the old freetype libraries.
Bye
Can you explain why my SuSE 9.1 Pro upgraded to KDE 3.2.3 and thence to 3.3.0 has a much older version of FreeType installed? % rpm -q freetype freetype-1.3.1-1150 I have not experienced any font-related problems, by the way. Randall Schulz
On Monday 23 August 2004 10:35 am, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Luca,
On Monday 23 August 2004 00:24, Luca Botti wrote:
I exchanged some mails with Mike Fabian (mfabian on suse people) about the issue.
The problem, from his words, is:
"I believe the problem is that freetype 2.1.9 is not completely binary compatible to 2.1.7. As far as I know, it is binary compatible as far as the public API is concerned, but unfortunately some applications used internal freetype functions which have been changed. I.e. that is most likely a bug in the KDE fontinstaller, it shouldn't have used private freetype functions.
As the above problem doesn't occur on the current development version of SuSE where all the KDE libraries are compiled against freetype 2.1.9, I think it is likely that the problem would go away on SuSE 9.1 if the programs causing problems were recompiled against freetype 2.1.9. Unfortunately this isn't easy for you and I also cannot easily supply updated versions of all KDE libraries."
You can revert to the old freetype libraries.
Bye
Can you explain why my SuSE 9.1 Pro upgraded to KDE 3.2.3 and thence to 3.3.0 has a much older version of FreeType installed?
% rpm -q freetype freetype-1.3.1-1150
I have not experienced any font-related problems, by the way.
Randall Schulz ============
Try checking for "freetype2" instead. That is likely to be the one you are looking for now. ;o) Lee -- --- KMail v1.7 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.1 --- Registered Linux User #225206 Those Who Dance Are Considered Insane, by Those That Cannot Hear the Music!
Lee, On Monday 23 August 2004 10:56, BandiPat wrote:
On Monday 23 August 2004 10:35 am, Randall R Schulz wrote:
...
Can you explain why my SuSE 9.1 Pro upgraded to KDE 3.2.3 and thence to 3.3.0 has a much older version of FreeType installed?
% rpm -q freetype freetype-1.3.1-1150
I have not experienced any font-related problems, by the way.
Randall Schulz
============
Try checking for "freetype2" instead. That is likely to be the one you are looking for now. ;o)
Lee
Ah. % rpm -q freetype2 freetype2-2.1.7-53 Or, more generally: % rpm -qa |egrep -i freetype freetype2-2.1.7-53 freetype-1.3.1-1150 freetype2-devel-2.1.7-53 So, where is the problematic 2.1.9 version coming from on those systems where it is installed? Randall Schulz
On Monday 23 August 2004 02:06 pm, Randall R Schulz wrote: [...]
Ah.
% rpm -q freetype2 freetype2-2.1.7-53
Or, more generally:
% rpm -qa |egrep -i freetype freetype2-2.1.7-53 freetype-1.3.1-1150 freetype2-devel-2.1.7-53
So, where is the problematic 2.1.9 version coming from on those systems where it is installed?
Randall Schulz ===========
Well, now that's a secret and better you didn't know! ;o) But maybe since Mike stated all the new 3.3 stuff was compiled against it, you could chance looking here: ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/people/mfabian/9.1/i586 Lee -- --- KMail v1.7 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.1 --- Registered Linux User #225206 Those Who Dance Are Considered Insane, by Those That Cannot Hear the Music!
Sorry for the delayed answer. Lee is correct. Any user with semi automatic update via apt will get the (up to date, but not correctly linked) 2.1.9 version. Alle 20:28, lunedì 23 agosto 2004, BandiPat ha scritto:
On Monday 23 August 2004 02:06 pm, Randall R Schulz wrote: [...]
Ah.
% rpm -q freetype2 freetype2-2.1.7-53
Or, more generally:
% rpm -qa |egrep -i freetype freetype2-2.1.7-53 freetype-1.3.1-1150 freetype2-devel-2.1.7-53
So, where is the problematic 2.1.9 version coming from on those systems where it is installed?
Randall Schulz
===========
Well, now that's a secret and better you didn't know! ;o)
But maybe since Mike stated all the new 3.3 stuff was compiled against it, you could chance looking here: ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/people/mfabian/9.1/i586
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Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 12:42, schreef Luca Botti:
Sorry for the delayed answer. Lee is correct. Any user with semi automatic update via apt will get the (up to date, but not correctly linked) 2.1.9 version.
To be more specific; apt users that have but the component 'suse-projects' in their sources.list file. Regular apt users do not get freetype2-2.1.9 offered. -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
On Thursday 26 August 2004 01:55 pm, Richard Bos wrote:
Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 12:42, schreef Luca Botti:
Sorry for the delayed answer. Lee is correct. Any user with semi automatic update via apt will get the (up to date, but not correctly linked) 2.1.9 version.
To be more specific; apt users that have but the component 'suse-projects' in their sources.list file. Regular apt users do not get freetype2-2.1.9 offered.
-- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless ===========
Might be a good thing too Richard they don't get it. If someone uses Mozilla/Mail on their machines and tend to print pages from those, you will experience problems with the last two 1.8 version builds. Firefox does not exhibit the same behavior when freetype2-2.1.9 is installed and still prints ok. I haven't noticed any other problems using the 2.1.9 version yet, just Mozilla/mail. Lee -- --- KMail v1.7 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.1 --- Registered Linux User #225206 Those Who Dance Are Considered Insane, by Those That Cannot Hear the Music!
On Thursday 19 August 2004 18:23, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Hi,
I need to correct these instructions. There's a serious flaw
To install this new release via the YaST installer mechanism, follow this
general procedure:
1) Launch the YaST Control Center: KDE Launch Menut -> System -> YaST. 2) Click "Change Source of Installation" 3) Click "Add" and seelct "FTP..." from the pop-up menu that appears. 4) In the resulting dialog, add the server name "ftp.gwdg.de" and the directory name
"/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.1/ya st-source"
and click "OK". Once the YaST software confirms the suitability of this network location as a source for installation you'll be back in the YaST Control Center. 5) Click "Install and Remove Software" 6) From the "Filter:" pop-up menu in the upper-left of the installer window, choose "Package Groups". 7) Scroll down to the "System" category and expand it (click the little plus sign) and then similarly expand the "GUI" category and click "KDE"
Up to here, everything is OK (as far as I can tell...). However, this
part:
Now in the list on the upper right you'll see all the packages in this group. Many of these packages will be shown in blue and should have check-marks in the box at the left. Scroll if necessary to the right to see the version numbers. The checked / blue packages should show a newer version number than the installed version (if any) and in many cases (though not necessarily all) those version numbers will be 3.3.0-n.
... is seriously flawed. Let me try again:
The blue entries are those for which a newer version is availble. However, as shown, those packages _will not_ be updated. To get all the newer packages installed:
Alternatively: 7) Click on the zzz All entry at the bottom of the list 8) Scroll the package pane across till you see "Avail. Ver." and click once on this header. Now packages are sorted in this order: red: a more recent version is installed than is available in a source (this happens with security updates) blue: a newer package is available black: up to date. 9) I usually use the numeric keypad + key to select, and move to the next one. This lets me get an idea of what packages are going in.
8) Select the menu command Packge -> All in This List -> Update if Newer Version Available.
After doing this, you'll see green/black lightening bolt icons in the packages that have been superceded by the KDE 3.3 release and which will be updated if you proceed.
Now, if you want to install KDE 3.3, click the "Accept" button in the lower right corner of the window.
Sorry for the initial misinformation!
Randall Schulz
On Thursday 19 August 2004 09:58, Martin Love wrote:
On Thursday 19 August 2004 18:32, Randall R Schulz wrote: Hi Randall,
I'm new to Linux and SuSE. Could you give me more detailed instructions on installing KDE 3.3 via YaST2. I don't know how to add the "yast-sourse" etc...
Thanks inadvance for your help.
Martin
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