On Wednesday 24 September 2003 12:28, Alec Podrezenko wrote:
Can SuSE 8.2 run on P-I with 32M of RAM?
Depends on what you're planning to do with that machine. If you're going to run a server (samba, printserver, NFS, firewall, whatever) it'll probably do the job. But you shouldn't expect to run a desktop system like KDE or GNOME. Well, you could, but you'd need plenty of time... :) Hansen -- Powered by SuSE 8.1pro - KDE 3.0.3 - KMail 1.4.3 At least, try asking smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around the more I think it might not be a bad thing. -JC
On Wednesday 24 September 2003 03:46, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The 03.09.24 at 18:28, Alec Podrezenko wrote:
Hello! Can SuSE 8.2 run on P-I with 32M of RAM?
Probably. But I think it might not install, Yast needs more.
Yast is a big hurdle. Yast is big. I have an older box that is a firewall and not running much of anything other than packet filtering etc, but I can't even apply the security fixes via yast (text mode). There are patches to yast to make it use less room, but I can't get those on either with yast. So I have to fetch the rpms manually and install them manually. It only has 78 meg. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
Hello! Can SuSE 8.2 run on P-I with 32M of RAM?
Probably. But I think it might not install, Yast needs more.
A rather unconventional way around this is to install on a similar-hardware machine that does have enough memory, then either move the disk to the target machine or use something like Drive Image and a network boot floppy / bootable CD to get an image of the installed disk onto the target machine. The Drive Image method worked on an old toshiba laptop (32MB RAM). Damian
Damian O'Hara wrote:
Hello! Can SuSE 8.2 run on P-I with 32M of RAM?
Probably. But I think it might not install, Yast needs more.
A rather unconventional way around this is to install on a similar-hardware machine that does have enough memory, then either move the disk to the target machine or use something like Drive Image and a network boot floppy / bootable CD to get an image of the installed disk onto the target machine. The Drive Image method worked on an old toshiba laptop (32MB RAM).
Damian
Yeah, I think that is bad from Suse to delete the yast1. If you need a small computer for certains applications: Router, Dns, etc, you can't do it. -- ------------------------------------------------------ Una prensa libre es el gran enemigo de los dictadores. Independientemente de sus abusos, sus debilidades, sus errores. Una prensa libre es la gran aliada y defensora de la democracia. Charlos S. Shapiro Embajador de USA en la Rep. de Venezuela Martes, 20 de Mayo 2003
Hipolito A. Gonzalez M. wrote:
Damian O'Hara wrote:
Hello! Can SuSE 8.2 run on P-I with 32M of RAM?
Probably. But I think it might not install, Yast needs more.
A rather unconventional way around this is to install on a similar-hardware machine that does have enough memory, then either move the disk to the target machine or use something like Drive Image and a network boot floppy / bootable CD to get an image of the installed disk onto the target machine. The Drive Image method worked on an old toshiba laptop (32MB RAM).
Damian
Yeah, I think that is bad from Suse to delete the yast1. If you need a small computer for certains applications: Router, Dns, etc, you can't do it.
We just loaded SuSE 8.2 on a 266mHz Compact Pressario with 48mb of RAM. YAST2 stops due to insufficient memory, but the old YAST-1 is still right there inside, just an option you must request from the menue. It is all text, TAB key and RET, but we could pick-and-choose software. Stay off KDE and OpenOffice. Use fvwm2 (or others). Use Abiword. BTW, my 14-year old says "fvwm2 is the first desktop advancement since W95" :-) He started on an Amiga, uses W-boxen because of the games, but isn't locked into their desktop world.
Stanley Long wrote:
We just loaded SuSE 8.2 on a 266mHz Compact Pressario with 48mb of RAM. YAST2 stops due to insufficient memory, but the old YAST-1 is still right there inside, just an option you must request from the menue. It is all text, TAB key and RET, but we could pick-and-choose software. Stay off KDE and OpenOffice. Use fvwm2 (or others). Use Abiword.
BTW, my 14-year old says "fvwm2 is the first desktop advancement since W95" :-)
He started on an Amiga, uses W-boxen because of the games, but isn't locked into their desktop world.
goodddddddddddd. But, if you try to start up a system with 8.0 or 8.2, you obtain a kernel panic for memory. How to swith to yast1? I love yast1 I don't understand TAB key with RET? What key is this? I started with a Commodore 64, and after, my super commodore 128. I have it, and running! Floppy 1571 !!! About 400 games!!!! CPm. hahahahahaha -- ------------------------------------------------------ Una prensa libre es el gran enemigo de los dictadores. Independientemente de sus abusos, sus debilidades, sus errores. Una prensa libre es la gran aliada y defensora de la democracia. Charlos S. Shapiro Embajador de USA en la Rep. de Venezuela Martes, 20 de Mayo 2003
I think what he is trying to say is that the YAST-1 interface is used with the TAB and ENTER/RETURN keys. Use TAB to choose fields and buttons, ENTER to make choises. I installed SuSE for server usage on a Pentium 200 with 48mb of ram last year. On Friday 26 September 2003 02:23, Hipolito A. Gonzalez M. wrote:
Stanley Long wrote:
We just loaded SuSE 8.2 on a 266mHz Compact Pressario with 48mb of RAM. YAST2 stops due to insufficient memory, but the old YAST-1 is still right there inside, just an option you must request from the menue. It is all text, TAB key and RET, but we could pick-and-choose software. Stay off KDE and OpenOffice. Use fvwm2 (or others). Use Abiword.
BTW, my 14-year old says "fvwm2 is the first desktop advancement since W95" :-)
He started on an Amiga, uses W-boxen because of the games, but isn't locked into their desktop world.
goodddddddddddd. But, if you try to start up a system with 8.0 or 8.2, you obtain a kernel panic for memory. How to swith to yast1? I love yast1 I don't understand TAB key with RET? What key is this? I started with a Commodore 64, and after, my super commodore 128. I have it, and running! Floppy 1571 !!! About 400 games!!!! CPm. hahahahahaha
-- ------------------------------------------------------
Una prensa libre es el gran enemigo de los dictadores. Independientemente de sus abusos, sus debilidades, sus errores. Una prensa libre es la gran aliada y defensora de la democracia.
Charlos S. Shapiro Embajador de USA en la Rep. de Venezuela Martes, 20 de Mayo 2003
Le Mercredi 24 Septembre 2003 12:28, Alec Podrezenko a écrit :
Hello! Can SuSE 8.2 run on P-I with 32M of RAM?
Why not? I possess an old computer with Pentium 60MHz, 24 MBytes memory and 2 HDs ( 260 MB & 330 MB ) Last month i upgraded from 7.0 to 8.0 . This system run slowly but fine. Franz
Hi Francois, Sorry for contacting you outside the subject. Did you experience any other problems during the installation process? I have tried to install 8.0 as well as 8.2 on my old box with Pentium 200MHz, 180MB RAM, unfortunately I was not yet able to resolve the installation problem. My installation goes fine up to the setting up root password. After that the installation consistently crashes with segmentation fault: The error message: /sbin/yast: line 166: 1404 Segmentation fault $ybindir/y2base $module "$@" ncurses I have tried everything I could imagine, including removing my 3Com 3c59x Boomerang network card as well as USR modem, passing ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off noapic (disableapic) nosmp etc. to the kernel. As you can imagine, as a result of the crash, I do not have quite few setup files, users, user groups set up correctly. Even though I can boot up the system and login as root and then create some other users. However I do not seem to be able to set up network nor modem etc. (probably missing some of the config file templates). Do you have any experience with it? I have even tried RH9, but that is even worst. Thanks, Tomas François-Gabriel Knuts wrote:
Le Mercredi 24 Septembre 2003 12:28, Alec Podrezenko a écrit :
Hello! Can SuSE 8.2 run on P-I with 32M of RAM?
Why not? I possess an old computer with Pentium 60MHz, 24 MBytes memory and 2 HDs ( 260 MB & 330 MB ) Last month i upgraded from 7.0 to 8.0 . This system run slowly but fine.
Franz
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Alec Podrezenko -
Carlos E. R. -
Damian O'Hara -
François-Gabriel Knuts -
Hipolito A. Gonzalez M. -
Johannes Liedtke -
John Andersen -
Robert Ahlskog -
Stanley Long -
Tomas Kuchta