Cut'n'paste question (WM)
G'day all. For reasons that may be summarized in a separate posting, I am accustomed to KDE, KMail, etc., but have recently found myself in Windowmaker, using Sylpheed Claws. I don't know if it's a Sylpheed thing, or a Windowmaker thing, but while URLs are highlighted within the Sylpheed message-view pane, they do not launch a browser. So, I select a URL as text, activate a browser manually, and paste. This works for Mozilla, but not for Opera. I'm fairly sure that I could paste URLs into Opera from other apps, in KDE. Am I misremembering, or is this a difference between WM and KDE? /kevin
On Saturday 19 October 2002 13.52, KMcLauchlan wrote:
G'day all.
For reasons that may be summarized in a separate posting, I am accustomed to KDE, KMail, etc., but have recently found myself in Windowmaker, using Sylpheed Claws.
I don't know if it's a Sylpheed thing, or a Windowmaker thing, but while URLs are highlighted within the Sylpheed message-view pane, they do not launch a browser. So, I select a URL as text, activate a browser manually, and paste.
This works for Mozilla, but not for Opera. I'm fairly sure that I could paste URLs into Opera from other apps, in KDE. Am I misremembering, or is this a difference between WM and KDE?
I tried the sylpheed and window maker included in 8.1. It works for me. Both using "copy" and "paste" from the menus and using the traditional "select" and "middle-click". Anders
On Sat, 19 Oct 2002 18:13:35 +0200
"Anders Johansson"
On Saturday 19 October 2002 13.52, KMcLauchlan wrote: [...]
I don't know if it's a Sylpheed thing, or a Windowmaker thing, but while URLs are highlighted within the Sylpheed message-view pane, they do not launch a browser. So, I select a URL as text, activate a browser manually, and paste.
This works for Mozilla, but not for Opera. I'm fairly sure that I could paste URLs into Opera from other apps, in KDE. Am I misremembering, or is this a difference between WM and KDE?
I tried the sylpheed and window maker included in 8.1. It works for me. Both using "copy" and "paste" from the menus and using the traditional "select" and "middle-click".
Well, my 8.1 will come when SuSE deigns to supply stock to my local distributor, in Canada. I live in hope. I've got 8.0, and I did a major update with synaptic (first time user) yesterday, which resulted in me booting direclty into WM. The source list was the SuSE8.0 list at gwdg. I'm guessing that the versions of many things that apt-get gave me for my 8.0 are probably different from the versions you have for 8.1 Or, there are a bunch of new settings that I'd have to track down. If I select a URL in a Sylpheed message, I don't just point and click. It doesn't get recognized as a unit. I have to left-button click-and-drag to select it. Then, I can do a [Ctrl]-c to buffer it, and [Ctrl]-v elsewhere to paste -- but not in Opera URL field. However, middle and right clicks do nothing but unselect, unless the selected text was an e-mail address, in which case a new, blank message is launched. By the way, referring back to one of the complaints in the "Top posting is so Microsoftish" thread, in Sylpheed I have not found any combination of methods that will allow me to reply to this list. (I've only had the program for a few hours...) My only options, from menus or icons are to reply to the sender (Anders in this case) or to reply to the sender with cc: to the list. If I put the pointer on the list-email address in a message, and right-click, I get an "add this to the address-list?" dialog, and if I middle-click, I get a new, blank message to the list.... no replied text is quoted. Maybe I just need to re-visit the WM config panel, yet again. /kevin
I'm trying to connect my home machine running SuSE 8.1 to my network at work, so that I can browse and use files on a server at work. I installed the PPTP-Client package from Sourceforge, but the instructions presume a fluent knowledge of networking command syntax (like adding routes), which I do not have. My home Linux machine dual boots Windows 2000, and that VPNs in just fine to the Windows 2000 VPN server at the office. So, I just need to get Linux to the same thing! FWIW, the connection to the server at work from my home machine looks like this: Home Machine ==> D-Link 704P DSL modem/router/firewall ==> Verizon/Westell DSL modem ==> Internet ==> Cisco PIX 520 Firewall ==> W2K VPN server at 206.26.206.115. The D-Link box performs DHCP and assigns the same private IP address to my home machine (192.168.0.247). The PIX firewall performs NAT for the network at work. I understanding networking concepts; I'm just new to Linux and haven't fussed with networking at the command-line level since my OS/2 days, several years ago. Thanks! Mark -- ______________________________________________ Another Message From L. Mark Stone http://www.lmstone.com
I installed the PPTP-Client package from Sourceforge, but the instructions presume a fluent knowledge of networking command syntax (like adding routes), which I do not have.
One quick note win2k typically uses L2PT unless pptp is selected. Also important is the type of encryption. What is the error message that your 2000 server give you. Abviously it's a failed connection(improper encryption, incorrect protocol, bad password). Or does it fail to reach the host.
Home Machine ==> D-Link 704P DSL modem/router/firewall ==> Verizon/Westell DSL modem ==> Internet ==> Cisco PIX 520 Firewall ==> W2K VPN server at 206.26.206.115.
Pptp is a weird protocol. Not very many firewalls support it efficiantly. My SMC router claimed it did but when push came to shove it didn't. Verify that this is the case. Finally you need to check with verizon to see if they support this.
The D-Link box performs DHCP and assigns the same private IP address to my home machine (192.168.0.247). The PIX firewall performs NAT for the network at work.
One more thing if your natting your home machine you need to have some way to forward the correct port and protocal (tcp1723 ip47).
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Rowan, Thanks for your reply. I'm OK with the concepts you mentioned, it's the Linux "How-To" that I'm missing. The home Linux box in question dual boots W2K, and I can VPN in to the server when booted into W2K just fine. The published Linux How-Tos regarding VPN's and Masquerading give a detailed background into the concepts, and that's OK. But what I need is an implementation guide written for CIOs, not CTOs or network engineers. I guess I'm truly surprised that such a guide doesn't exist. With the increase in WAN networking, telecommuting, and Linux devotes interest in weaning users away from Microsoft, I would think that a good migration plan would be to enable users to migrate to Linux on their desktops, while their employers can continue to wring maximum value out of their $$$ investment in Windows server licenses, Exchange CALs, etc. In other words, it always seemed to me that it would be easier to migrate the desktops to Linux first as these get replaced or upgraded more frequently, and then migrate the servers later, after the investment in MS licensing has been fully amortized. So, if I can get this thing working, and if the implementation guide I mentioned doesn't exist, I'd be happy to document what I've done and write my own How-To. Can anybody help? Thanks! On Sun, 2001-10-21 at 11:40, Rowan Reid wrote many things: <snip>
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On Sat, 19 Oct 2002 13:58:55 +0100
KMcLauchlan
By the way, referring back to one of the complaints in the "Top posting is so Microsoftish" thread, in Sylpheed I have not found any combination of methods that will allow me to reply to this list. (I've only had the program for a few hours...)
My only options, from menus or icons are to reply to the sender (Anders in this case) or to reply to the sender with cc: to the list. If I put the pointer on the list-email address in a message, and right-click, I get an "add this to the address-list?" dialog, and if I middle-click, I get a new, blank message to the list.... no replied text is quoted.
Get the latest vesion of Sylpheed-claws, .85, it will respond to the list when clicking "reply". I noticed you still are using version .73. -- use Perl; #powerful programmable prestidigitation
On Sat, 19 Oct 2002 13:58:55 +0100
KMcLauchlan
On Sat, 19 Oct 2002 18:13:35 +0200 "Anders Johansson"
wrote: On Saturday 19 October 2002 13.52, KMcLauchlan wrote: [...]
I don't know if it's a Sylpheed thing, or a Windowmaker thing, but while URLs are highlighted within the Sylpheed message-view pane, they do not launch a browser. So, I select a URL as text, activate a browser manually, and paste.
You need to edit the uri line in .sylpheedrc uri_open_command=/home/zentara/mozilla/mozilla -remote 'openURL(%s)' Mine stopped working after upgrading to 8.1, because the line had netscape in it, and I didn't intall netscape. The trick is to have sylpheed closed when you edit it, or else it will overwrite when it closes. -- use Perl; #powerful programmable prestidigitation
KMcLauchlan:
If I select a URL in a Sylpheed message, I don't just point and click. It doesn't get recognized as a unit.
Configuration > Common preferences > Tab 'Other' > External commands > Web browser: enter opera %s in this field. Then Opera will be launched if you either double click an URL w/ left button or single click w/ middle button. It just looks a little strange in my Sylpheed 0.8.3; as if the URL is not recognized as such when clicked.
in Sylpheed I have not found any combination of methods that will allow me to reply to this list.
I must say I wouldn't want anything else. It prevents me from accidentally replying to the list. I would suggest to put the SuSE address in your address book. SH
Circa Sat. Oct. 19, 2002 at 13:58:55 +0100, a lone cry was heard from
KMcLauchlan
Well, my 8.1 will come when SuSE deigns to supply stock to my local distributor, in Canada. I live in hope. I've got 8.0, and I did a major update with synaptic (first time user) yesterday, which resulted
You should really install the cvs version of WIndow Maker, there are some bugs in 8.1 would have since been fixed.
If I select a URL in a Sylpheed message, I don't just point and click. It doesn't get recognized as a unit.
It looks like you haven't setup Sylpheed to launch URL's. Please refer to my reply to the parent message.
My only options, from menus or icons are to reply to the sender (Anders in this case) or to reply to the sender with cc: to the list.
Upgrade to either Sylpheed 0.8.5 or Sylpheed-claws 0.8.5. The "reply to list" function have been implemented. Charles -- lp1 on fire (One of the more obfuscated kernel messages)
Circa Sat. Oct. 19, 2002 at 12:52:52 +0100, a lone cry was heard from
KMcLauchlan
I don't know if it's a Sylpheed thing, or a Windowmaker thing, but while URLs are highlighted within the Sylpheed message-view pane, they do not launch a browser.
I have no problems launching URL in Sylpheed-claw under Window Maker. Did you setup your browser under the"Other" tab in the"Common Preferences" of Sylpheed-claw?
So, I select a URL as text, activate a browser manually, and paste.
You don't need to do that, just double-clicking on th URL will do the trick.
This works for Mozilla, but not for Opera. I'm fairly sure that I could paste URLs into Opera from other apps, in KDE. Am I misremembering, or is this a difference between WM and KDE?
Maybe because one uses the primary selection and the other cutbuffer. The clipboard in KDE probably hamonizes them. Try using a clipboard that does that. I have been using WMcliphist: http://linux.nawebu.cz/wmcliphist/ lately (now that it is mature enough) and it seem to do the trick, another one that I know does it for sure is Cutview: http://mahon.cwx.net/ Charles -- "On a normal ascii line, the only safe condition to detect is a 'BREAK' - everything else having been assigned functions by Gnu EMACS." (By Tarl Neustaedter)
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