At 16:15:53 on Monday Monday 19 April 2010, Mark Goldstein wrote:

Stan,

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Stan Goodman

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I would like to install this application on oS 11.1. There is a page that claims to enable this:

http://lizards.opensuse.org/2009/03/01/reading-ebooks-with-calibre/

and speaks highly of Calibre, but clicking on the "Download" button discloses that it has been removed. (There is no garbage removal function to junk pages when they are no longer functional.)

The web is filled with articles about problems encountered in installing Calibre, which is unfortunate, because the salesman-talk about it is really top notch.

Has anyone actually installed (from either binaries or source) it and got it to work? --

I have it installed in 11.1. I used http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/thomas-schraitle:/calib re/openSUSE_11.1 repository. This is not the latest version (0.6.21), but it works for me (I used only a couple of simple functions though).

You will also need to add http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt46/openSUSE_11.1/. I do not remember if some other repositories were needed. But in any case I´ve found all I needed in oS build service.

Regards, -- Mark Goldstein

Build Service speaks of installation into oS 11.2 only; I know that some some packages don't distinguish between 11.1 and 11.2, but that isn't a good bet. So I added the two specified repos and tried to install from YaST. Trying to load Calibre afterward caused the cursor to bounce for quite a while, which was encouraging, but after a time that stopped without ever displaying anything, so clearly something is missing. There is a note in the Build Service page about the program, in which a user says that he installed Calibre "easily" (my quotes) by "using the line: http://status.calibre-ebook.com/linux_installer').read(); main()">. It isn't clear to me how he used it, or at what stage ub tge process. The Caliber website, by the way, offers a number of binaries, including an rpm for Fedora. He probably could have made an rpm for oS fore little or no additional effort. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

At 20:01:06 on Monday Monday 19 April 2010, Mark Goldstein wrote:

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Stan Goodman

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At 16:15:53 on Monday Monday 19 April 2010, Mark Goldstein

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Build Service speaks of installation into oS 11.2 only; I know that some some packages don't distinguish between 11.1 and 11.2, but that isn't a good bet. So I added the two specified repos and tried to install from YaST.

Trying to load Calibre afterward caused the cursor to bounce for quite a while, which was encouraging, but after a time that stopped without ever displaying anything, so clearly something is missing.

I would try then run it from command line (/usr/bin/calibre). There may be some useful diagnostics. Maybe some additional library is needed.

Oh, I did that first thing (see my paragraph just above yours). It isn't worth trying further to massage it; I've taken the easy way out, and installed the Windows binary in the WinXP virtual machine that I keep handy for just such purposes. In passing, I have to remark that the developer's non-chalance about the impressive array of installation woes described in great detail all over the Web is typical of what causes Linux users to remain only 10% (at most) of users, which in turn explains a lot about why so many important websites (banks, government offices, etc) are unusable except with Internet Explorer. And that will never get any better.

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There is a note in the Build Service page about the program, in which a user says that he installed Calibre "easily" (my quotes) by "using the line: http://status.calibre-ebook.com/linux_installer').re ad(); main()">. It isn't clear to me how he used it, or at what stage ub tge process.

Not sure also. I thought to install from sources initially, but found out that there are too many dependencies (including advanced version of the Python and its libraries). So I just installed from the mentioned repository.

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The Caliber website, by the way, offers a number of binaries, including an rpm for Fedora. He probably could have made an rpm for oS fore little or no additional effort.

Probably it is worth asking the owner of the oS repository. I guess, Calibre developers use contributions from users.

-- Mark Goldstein

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At 08:55:59 on Tuesday Tuesday 20 April 2010, Mark Goldstein wrote:

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Stan Goodman

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At 20:01:06 on Monday Monday 19 April 2010, Mark Goldstein

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On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Stan Goodman

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Oh, I did that first thing (see my paragraph just above yours). It isn't worth trying further to massage it;

Hmm, strange. What could be the difference between our systems? Mine is 11.1, 32-bits. KDE-3.

Mine is 11.1, x84_64, KDE3.

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...I've taken the easy way out, and installed the Windows binary in the WinXP virtual machine that I keep handy for just such purposes.

I did the same when I bumped into one book in LIT format that Linux version of Calibre could not open. Windows version, (more advanced) opened it OK.

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In passing, I have to remark that the developer's non-chalance about the impressive array of installation woes described in great detail all over the Web is typical of what causes Linux users to remain only 10% (at most) of users, which in turn explains a lot about why so many important websites (banks, government offices, etc) are unusable except with Internet Explorer. And that will never get any better.

Well, I can understand the situation when few guys are developing the product. They just can´t cover all possible flavors of the systems. They provide the sources and instructions and then the users of specific distribution can contribute binary installation for their system.

That is very true, and to be realistic, it's a fundamental disadvantage of open-source. And the multiplicity of distributions, which seems to many to be a great advantage, simply spreads the talent out into a very thin layer.

I guess, situation with Websites is different. The Web programmers just were taught using MS tools and extensions (e.g for jscript) that are often non-standard. The situation is slowly improving and more and more sites are working with FF now (BG airport is one bad example - still accessible only from MS IE).

The airport and the sick funds in this country; many banks in the US, and that is a result of the criminal monopolist methods of Gates, right from the beginning. But that wouldn't happen if Linux was on a larger percentage if computers. At this point, it perpetuates the niche nature of Linux, and the multiplicity of distros adds to that. Look at the Calibre site, by the way, and see what distros he has bothered to make binaries for; at least two of them I have never even heard of in any other context. The offered excuse for requiring Internet Explorer, by the way, is that "it is more secure than Firefox" =;-/8. Translated into English, that is "our web designer learned in a Microsoft course, and doesn't know how to do anything else". I also downloaded the new Kindle software, by the way, and put it on the virtual WinXP (Viva, VirtualBox!). Amazon is talking about making one for OSX; Linux isn't even mentioned, because it isn't worth the effort and expense, partly because of the multiplicity of distros for which binaries would have to be prepared. It would be nice if they would release a generic source for Linux, which people could compile for themselves. But they probably would not like to expose the source, nor would they be interested in tending to the consequent need for support. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

At 19:58:43 on Tuesday Tuesday 20 April 2010, John Andersen wrote:

On 4/20/2010 2:47 AM, Stan Goodman wrote:

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At 08:55:59 on Tuesday Tuesday 20 April 2010, Mark Goldstein

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On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Stan Goodman

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At 20:01:06 on Monday Monday 19 April 2010, Mark Goldstein

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On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Stan Goodman

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Oh, I did that first thing (see my paragraph just above yours). It isn't worth trying further to massage it;

Hmm, strange. What could be the difference between our systems? Mine is 11.1, 32-bits. KDE-3.

Mine is 11.1, x84_64, KDE3.

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...I've taken the easy way out, and installed the Windows binary in the WinXP virtual machine that I keep

Jumping in late on this thread:

I just wanted to say I use Calibre almost every day. Its running in the tray of a Kubuntu machine scraping the web pages of a few periodicals I follow and also I use it to manage all my digital books.

In Kubuntu (latest version of KDE) it installs perfectly (done as root) and works flawlessly (run as user) and even makes up for the fact that KDE had no proper Eject for USB devices.

It detects my E-Reader and uploads any new periodicals, and allows me to manage the books on the device.

The top of this thread is lost, (I'm not chasing it to the archives), but I can't imagine what problems you are having with this software. The developer is very responsive.

Just do the binary install as mentioned on his site. (minus the sudo bit, just do it as root).

At this point, I'm not sure there would be a point to trying further. The Windows installer worked instantly in a WinXP virtual machine in both of my computers. A little googling shows that even many users of Ubuntu (for which there is an installation package have found Calibre difficult to install; I assume that the Ubuntu package is meant to work in your Kubuntu as well. At the moment, I feel well served by VirtualBox. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:45 PM, John Andersen wrote:

On 4/20/2010 10:37 AM, Stan Goodman wrote:

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At 19:58:43 on Tuesday Tuesday 20 April 2010, John Andersen

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At this point, I'm not sure there would be a point to trying further. The Windows installer worked instantly in a WinXP virtual machine in both of my computers. A little googling shows that even many users of Ubuntu (for which there is an installation package have found Calibre difficult to install; I assume that the Ubuntu package is meant to work in your Kubuntu as well. At the moment, I feel well served by VirtualBox.

There is a package? Who knew?

I just install from the command line per the web site: As root:

python -c "import urllib2; exec urllib2.urlopen('http://status.calibre-ebook.com/linux_installer').read(); main()"

Take all the defaults. Run the welcome script. Done.

Why in gods name would you run a virtual machine for one package that works perfectly when run natively?

John, We were talking about openSUSE installation. We use 11.1 and I managed to install calibre from build service (though not the latest version) and it mostly works for me. Stan tried the same repository and it does not work. (I start thinking there might be some issue with repositories right now). I will probably try Kubuntu again (tired it already and was a bit disappointed, planned returning to it after I finish configuring all the stuff in my 11.1). -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:18 PM, John Andersen wrote:

On 4/20/2010 10:55 AM, Mark Goldstein wrote:

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On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:45 PM, John Andersen wrote:

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On 4/20/2010 10:37 AM, Stan Goodman wrote:

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At 19:58:43 on Tuesday Tuesday 20 April 2010, John Andersen

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At this point, I'm not sure there would be a point to trying further. The Windows installer worked instantly in a WinXP virtual machine in both of my computers. A little googling shows that even many users of Ubuntu (for which there is an installation package have found Calibre difficult to install; I assume that the Ubuntu package is meant to work in your Kubuntu as well. At the moment, I feel well served by VirtualBox.

There is a package? Who knew?

I just install from the command line per the web site: As root:

python -c "import urllib2; exec urllib2.urlopen('http://status.calibre-ebook.com/linux_installer').read(); main()"

Take all the defaults. Run the welcome script. Done.

Why in gods name would you run a virtual machine for one package that works perfectly when run natively?

John, We were talking about openSUSE installation. We use 11.1 and I managed to install calibre from build service (though not the latest version) and it mostly works for me. Stan tried the same repository and it does not work. (I start thinking there might be some issue with repositories right now). I will probably try Kubuntu again (tired it already and was a bit disappointed, planned returning to it after I finish configuring all the stuff in my 11.1).

Hey, suit yourself...

I was just trying to let you know that it works perfectly if installed directly from the developer's site. The command line method, as documented here: http://calibre-ebook.com/download_linux is not Distro specific. This is basically a python application.

Sure, I understood it, thank you. Command line method is OK, but there is a long list of dependencies. I started checking and was a bit frightened, because I saw that I need to use very advanced versions of Qt, Python and other stuff. I was not sure it will not break something on my 11.1/KDE3. That´s why I was glad to find binary installation for 11.1. -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Am 22.04.2010 12:35, schrieb Thomas Schraitle:

interesting, I totally missed this thread. So jumping in a bit late.

On Monday 19 April 2010 Stan Goodman wrote:

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I would like to install this application on oS 11.1. There is a page that claims to enable this:

http://lizards.opensuse.org/2009/03/01/reading-ebooks-with-calibre/

and speaks highly of Calibre, but clicking on the "Download" button discloses that it has been removed.

Yes, that was me. ;)

I had to remove the one-click installation from my repository as I had moved to a different location. Now I try to improve the RPM package, but it takes time. So this is currently work in progress.

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The web is filled with articles about problems encountered in installing Calibre, which is unfortunate, because the salesman-talk about it is really top notch.

The content of the above link still applies. The problem with Calibre is, it takes a lot of dependencies and if you catch a different version by accident it might not work. Although I tried to cover most of it in the RPM ("version X must greater than 1.1.3") it is no guarantee.

Another problem is, that the package does not work in combination with other repositories, eg. KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop and newer calibre versions do not work with older qt libraries.

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Has anyone actually installed (from either binaries or source) it and got it to work?

Yes, me. :)

Me too. But I had to link and build it and some dependencies against openSUSE 11.2, KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop, openSUSE:11.2:KDE4:UNSTABLE:Desktop and against Factory:snapshot in my own repository (home:hgraeber:KDE4). Building it for openSUSE 11.1 and newer Qt/KDE may work too, but I haven't tried. Maybe we shall join forces here and push the packages and the dependencies into Factory or at least into the Contrib repository. Herbert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Am Donnerstag 22 April 2010 13:12:35 schrieb Thomas Schraitle:

Hi,

On Thursday 22 April 2010 Herbert Graeber wrote:

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The content of the above link still applies. The problem with Calibre is, it takes a lot of dependencies and if you catch a different version by accident it might not work. Although I tried to cover most of it in the RPM ("version X must greater than 1.1.3") it is no guarantee.

Another problem is, that the package does not work in combination with other repositories, eg. KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop and newer calibre versions do not work with older qt libraries.

I've created a branch to collect all correct versions, because of exactly this reason. It is out of my control if someone just links to calibre but doesn't take into account the other packages.

The problem with your repository is, that you are linking to some bleeding edge stuff which when one must install them to get calibre running will break other things. The libqt4 you are using is from KDE:Qt46. You better use the one from KDE:Qt or KDE:KDE4:Factory and you are much closer to openSUSE:Factory and therefore to the upcoming openSUSE 11.3. Or even better buold dircetly on top of one these Repositories instead of linking single packages. I have linked to your calibre package, build my repository based on openSUSE:Factory or KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop and add links an aggregates to a much smaller set of packages, all taken from devel projects for Factory.

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[...] Maybe we shall join forces here and push the packages and the dependencies into Factory or at least into the Contrib repository.

It's a good idea, but I don't think the package is ready for Factory. For example, it installs language specific files under /usr/share/calibre/localization/locales/LANG instead of /usr/share/locale/LANG/ which creates a huge list of warnings. I would like to create a consistent package. Unfortunately, finding the relevant spots takes time...

These problems must be fixed before submitting it anywhere. It's too late for Factory anyway, because no new packges will be accepted since last milestone. Be we can get it into the Contrib repository, what will make many users happy :-)

Would you like to improve the package? Send your submitrequest to home:thomas- schraitle:calibre, I'm happy to integrate it. :)

I will do that when neccessary. But to get into the Contrib repository or later into Factory, we have to solve some issues not related to this single package, but on a higher level, the whole project. I think we must make it work with Factory with a minmal set of additional packages. That means we must use the Qt version Factory has and try to use Factory's versions of all packages already in Factory. If neccessary we must stick with a slightly older version of calibre, especially when calibre developers decide to go with Qt 4.7 when it is ready, because we will not get this one with openSUSE 11.3. Then we can submit all remainig dependencies and calibre itself to openSUSE:Factory:Contrib. Herbert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

At 13:55:37 on Thursday Thursday 22 April 2010, Herbert Graeber wrote:

Am 22.04.2010 12:35, schrieb Thomas Schraitle:

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interesting, I totally missed this thread. So jumping in a bit late.

On Monday 19 April 2010 Stan Goodman wrote:

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I would like to install this application on oS 11.1. There is a page that claims to enable this:

<http://lizards.opensuse.org/2009/03/01/reading-ebooks-with-calibre/

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and speaks highly of Calibre, but clicking on the "Download" button discloses that it has been removed.

Yes, that was me. ;)

I had to remove the one-click installation from my repository as I had moved to a different location. Now I try to improve the RPM package, but it takes time. So this is currently work in progress.

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The web is filled with articles about problems encountered in installing Calibre, which is unfortunate, because the salesman-talk about it is really top notch.

The content of the above link still applies. The problem with Calibre is, it takes a lot of dependencies and if you catch a different version by accident it might not work. Although I tried to cover most of it in the RPM ("version X must greater than 1.1.3") it is no guarantee.

Another problem is, that the package does not work in combination with other repositories, eg. KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop and newer calibre versions do not work with older qt libraries.

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Has anyone actually installed (from either binaries or source) it and got it to work?

Yes, me. :)

Me too. But I had to link and build it and some dependencies against openSUSE 11.2, KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop, openSUSE:11.2:KDE4:UNSTABLE:Desktop and against Factory:snapshot in my own repository (home:hgraeber:KDE4). Building it for openSUSE 11.1 and newer Qt/KDE may work too, but I haven't tried.

Maybe we shall join forces here and push the packages and the dependencies into Factory or at least into the Contrib repository.

Here, installation with the suggested "binary method", which consists of supplying python files according to a supplied incantation, worked without complaining about dependencies.

Herbert

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At 22:24:37 on Friday Friday 23 April 2010, John Andersen wrote:

On 4/22/2010 8:43 AM, Stan Goodman wrote:

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Here, installation with the suggested "binary method", which consists of supplying python files according to a supplied incantation, worked without complaining about dependencies.

Same here. I looked at the dependencies, but didn't do anything about them. I simply instlled the binary via the command line suggested on the web site.

Absent from the list of distros supported is opensuse.

Both the binary- and the source-install methods are intended precisely for unsupported distros.

Yet it worked. I might have accidentally satisfied all the prereqs by virtue of running KDE 4.4.2.

UmPossible. It worked for me, yet I haven't installed KDE4 at all. What is likely, however, is that both these methods include the necessary Python stuff in addition to the Calibre files, so that all the dependencies are snuck in by stealth, untouched by human hands, as it were. What surprised me is that he says explicitly that the binary install requires glibc at v2.10 or greater (and he gives a workaround for older versions), but it installed here without complaint even though I have v2.9x. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2010-04-24 08:12, Mark Goldstein wrote:

... And when I tried this installer on 11.1/x86/KDE3 the installation failed saying GLIBC 2.10 or higher is needed. Probably it is possible to install GLIBC 2.10 without removing the previous version? There are a couple of repositories in build service with version 2.10... I'll probably try later, but I'm afraid glibc + h-files will probably replace existing ones.

I understand that replacing glibc is a call for disaster. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Elessar)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkvS1MMACgkQU92UU+smfQXS2wCfZiUSFocXmf/6KG+LFo/yqEdS EnAAnitMgk3fk7Wkn4ZDGa8Iiwl1d63A =sZif -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:

Carlos E. R. said the following on 04/24/2010 07:23 AM:

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On 2010-04-24 08:12, Mark Goldstein wrote:

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... And when I tried this installer on 11.1/x86/KDE3 the installation failed saying GLIBC 2.10 or higher is needed. Probably it is possible to install GLIBC 2.10 without removing the previous version? There are a couple of repositories in build service with version 2.10... I'll probably try later, but I'm afraid glibc + h-files will probably replace existing ones.

I understand that replacing glibc is a call for disaster.

Indeed. Even a parallel install - rather than a replacement - and fiddling with LD_LIBRARY_PATH is going to be fraught with complications.

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Carlos, Anton, Thanks for warning. I'll stay with the older calibre version that works. In the meantime I tried binary installation on 11.2 and as John and Richard said, it installed easily and is working fine. One thing that surprises me is how it worked on Stan's 11.1 without glibc 2.10. Is it possible that 64-bit version has different dependencies than 32-bit one? Hard to believe. Need to look into installation program to see if they check glibc version for 64-bit architecture. Regards, -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 4/24/2010 10:35 PM, Mark Goldstein wrote:

Just from curiosity I've checked how this binary installer works. It downloads different tar files for 32- and 64-bit architectures. After that there is no specific check for GLIBC version. So the only explanation I might think of is that 64-bit version is linked against older version of glibc than the 32-bits one (there are many shared libraries in this archive). BTW, if they are providing more or less universal binary version, why not to include statically-linked version (as, for example, skype does)? Also, for some reason the binary installer could not download tar file on my 11.0 system. Probably python version is too old there?

Regards,

Well its also possible he doesn't use anything specific to 2.10, but that's just what he happens to have so he throws it in there as a pre-req. -- _____________________________________ At one time I had a Real Sig. Its been downsized. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

At 13:35:30 on Thursday Thursday 22 April 2010, Thomas Schraitle wrote:

Hi,

interesting, I totally missed this thread. So jumping in a bit late.

On Monday 19 April 2010 Stan Goodman wrote:

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I would like to install this application on oS 11.1. There is a page that claims to enable this:

http://lizards.opensuse.org/2009/03/01/reading-ebooks-with-calibre/

and speaks highly of Calibre, but clicking on the "Download" button discloses that it has been removed.

Yes, that was me. ;)

Hi.

I had to remove the one-click installation from my repository as I had moved to a different location. Now I try to improve the RPM package, but it takes time. So this is currently work in progress.

...

The web is filled with articles about problems encountered in installing Calibre, which is unfortunate, because the salesman-talk about it is really top notch.

The content of the above link still applies. The problem with Calibre is, it takes a lot of dependencies and if you catch a different version by accident it might not work. Although I tried to cover most of it in the RPM ("version X must greater than 1.1.3") it is no guarantee.

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Has anyone actually installed (from either binaries or source) it and got it to work?

Yes, me. :)

And now, so have I, under the prodding of John Anderson. After having no luck with installation from the Calibre repo (despite following the procedure followed successfully by Mark Goldstein), apparently because the repo had become SNAFUed, I tried the binary installation described on the Calibre website. This succeeded without any difficulty. Interestingly, Mark then tried it and found that it wouldn't work for him. Apparently, installation of this app depends heavily on phases of the moon, karma, and one's individual DNA. I am looking forward to using Calibre for reading free ebooks in Linux natively. Unfortunately, for reading purchased ones, I still have to use Kindle for PC, in the Windows virtual machine. Why Kindle and not one of the other booksellers> Amazon sells me books for which every other vendor I have tried can only tell me "This item cannot be shipped to your country". Why a John Grisham novel or other New York times Best Seller should not be shipped anywhere on the planet is left uexplained, but apparently Amazon doesn't understand it either. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org