On 03/03/13 15:51, Andrey Borzenkov wrote:

� Sun, 03 Mar 2013 15:39:20 +1100 Basil Chupin �����:

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I don't recall seeing these in oS prior to 12.2, but what are these "devices" with file system of TMPFS showing in the screengrab of the partition information in YaST2?:

http://susepaste.org/92624459

What created them and for what reason?

/dev/shm has always been there; cgroup is pseudo filesystem to manage kernel Control Groups (collection of processes); others are temporary volatile filesystems with content that is discarded between reboots. So it is easier to make them memory-based than run script on every boot to clean them.

Most of them are heavily used by systemd.

Aha, thanks for the explanation. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.10.00 & kernel 3.8.1-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

В Sun, 03 Mar 2013 00:41:53 -0500 Felix Miata пишет:

On 2013-03-03 08:51 (GMT+0400) Andrey Borzenkov composed:

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/dev/shm has always been there; cgroup is pseudo filesystem to manage kernel Control Groups (collection of processes); others are temporary volatile filesystems with content that is discarded between reboots. So it is easier to make them memory-based than run script on every boot to clean them.

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Most of them are heavily used by systemd.

Why do they show up in default output of 'mount'?

Because they are directory that are mounted? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Andrea Turrini wrote:

2013/3/3 Cristian Rodríguez :

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/media is where hotplugged storage devices will be mounted

How can I tell to oS 12.2 to use /media to mount hotplugged devices? When I plug a pendrive or an usb disk, it is mounted in /run/media/<user> and not in /media as happens in oS 12.1.

There is no way. Upstream decided that it should be a) /run/media/<user> b) not configurable -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 5:21 PM, James Knott wrote:

Andrey Borzenkov wrote:

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/media is where hotplugged storage devices will be mounted

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How can I tell to oS 12.2 to use /media to mount hotplugged devices? When I plug a pendrive or an usb disk, it is mounted in /run/media/<user> and not in /media as happens in oS 12.1.

There is no way. Upstream decided that it should be

a)/run/media/<user> b) not configurable

On my 12.2 system, a pen drive appears in /media. There isn't even a /run/media directory.

This likely depends on which DE is used and which udisks version it is using. IIRC udisk2 is using /run/media and udisks1 - /media. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 04/03/13 20:19, Andrea Turrini wrote:

2013/3/3 Cristian Rodr�guez :

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/media is where hotplugged storage devices will be mounted How can I tell to oS 12.2 to use /media to mount hotplugged devices? When I plug a pendrive or an usb disk, it is mounted in /run/media/<user> and not in /media as happens in oS 12.1.

Best, Andrea

When I mount an USB device it shows up in /media on my oS 12.2, and has never ever mounted anywhere else. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3 x86_64 KDE 4.10.00 & kernel 3.8.1-2 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 05/03/13 00:34, Anton Aylward wrote:

Basil Chupin said the following on 03/04/2013 05:31 AM:

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On 04/03/13 20:19, Andrea Turrini wrote:

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2013/3/3 Cristian Rodr�guez :

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/media is where hotplugged storage devices will be mounted How can I tell to oS 12.2 to use /media to mount hotplugged devices? When I plug a pendrive or an usb disk, it is mounted in /run/media/<user> and not in /media as happens in oS 12.1.

Best, Andrea When I mount an USB device it shows up in /media on my oS 12.2, and has never ever mounted anywhere else. Same here.

And so the question arises: what are those people claiming otherwise running to claim what they claim? Apart from the recent (ie, many months ago) alteration of a path which now causes the nvidia driver not to be compiled without a symlink, what else has been done - and when, and to what? - to cause USB devices to be mounted in '/run/media/...."? (There is nothing like stability in a system. Or sudden instability because somebody couldn't be bothered warning people about a change..... God/Allah bless developers and all those who control them..... :-) .) BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3 x86_64 KDE 4.10.00 & kernel 3.8.2-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 06/03/13 18:12, Andrea Turrini wrote:

2013/3/6 Basil Chupin :

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How can I tell to oS 12.2 to use /media to mount hotplugged devices? When I plug a pendrive or an usb disk, it is mounted in /run/media/<user> and not in /media as happens in oS 12.1.

Best, Andrea When I mount an USB device it shows up in /media on my oS 12.2, and has never ever mounted anywhere else. Same here.

And so the question arises: what are those people claiming otherwise running to claim what they claim? I have looked for this and the cause seems to be related to udisks1/2: udisks1 (still used by KDE) mounts in /media; udisks2 (used by GNOME, xfce, and lxde) mounts in /run/media/<user>

Best, Andrea

Aha, so it is related to other DE other than KDE. "KDE rools!" :-) BC PS As I stated, there is nothing better than consistency and uniformity in the ways things are handled..... And then people get annoyed when comments are made that Linux is for the geeks... -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.10.00 & kernel 3.8.2-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org