RE: Re: [opensuse] Some Leap Experiences and Issues
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Lew Wolfgang Gesendet: So. 06.12.2015 23:15 m installed, booted, and ran, I didn't consider that to be an issue. I'm re-installing from scratch again. It's up and running and doing the first update. I haven 't tried to create a second user yet, that's where the BSOD appeared.
Regards, Lew
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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht Ende----- Are you using the nouveau driver by chance? That driver is at my PC responsible for freezes without end if a second user is opened. The reason seems to be the modifications done to the kernel after 4.2.x In that case you will find error messages with kernel complaining about nouveau. (There is a bug, better, there are several bugs open). Try dmesg to see in case. Once you see that this is the case: the second user works in my experience if you logout first from the first user. Only one user at the time, if not, that freezes the system completely. (if this is an elderly nvidia card especially).
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On 12/06/2015 02:28 PM, stakanov@freenet.de wrote:
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Lew Wolfgang Gesendet: So. 06.12.2015 23:15 m installed, booted, and ran, I didn't consider that to be an issue. I'm re-installing from scratch again. It's up and running and doing the first update. I haven 't tried to create a second user yet, that's where the BSOD appeared.
Regards, Lew
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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht Ende----- Are you using the nouveau driver by chance? That driver is at my PC responsible for freezes without end if a second user is opened. The reason seems to be the modifications done to the kernel after 4.2.x In that case you will find error messages with kernel complaining about nouveau. (There is a bug, better, there are several bugs open). Try dmesg to see in case. Once you see that this is the case: the second user works in my experience if you logout first from the first user. Only one user at the time, if not, that freezes the system completely. (if this is an elderly nvidia card especially).
No, the laptop has an Intel graphics chipset. No nouveau. So I reinstalled from scratch and pulled all the updates. Now, a user created after the install seems to work okay. The BSOD is gone. But now I have the unpleasant experience of having the touchpad buttons going away again. Tapping the pad doesn't work. The external usb mouse and keyboards don't work either. I'm going to give up on this one. The laptop is old and has only 2-GB of ram, maybe that's contributing to the non-deterministic behavior? Regards, Lew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 07/12/2015 03:01, Lew Wolfgang a écrit :
But now I have the unpleasant experience of having the touchpad buttons going away again. Tapping the pad doesn't work. The external usb mouse and keyboards don't work either. I'm going to give up on this one. The laptop is old and has only 2-GB of ram, maybe that's contributing to the non-deterministic behavior?
should not. I never had such problem. May be it's time to open a bug report with hardware infos? jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/07/2015 02:00 AM, jdd wrote:
Le 07/12/2015 03:01, Lew Wolfgang a écrit :
But now I have the unpleasant experience of having the touchpad buttons going away again. Tapping the pad doesn't work. The external usb mouse and keyboards don't work either. I'm going to give up on this one. The laptop is old and has only 2-GB of ram, maybe that's contributing to the non-deterministic behavior?
should not. I never had such problem. May be it's time to open a bug report with hardware infos?
jdd
Agreed, Lew, there is no reason 2G shouldn't be enough mow the grass... synaptics should take care of the touchpad by default. If you are having issues, then it is likely a base config issue with the leap setup and your hardware, or there is an upstream issue with synaptics and the new kernels, etc.. (I can't see that being the probable cause, but it is likely one or the other) My biggest concern would be graphics support for the radeon chipset in my laptop. Good to know intel is fine. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/07/2015 12:46 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 12/07/2015 02:00 AM, jdd wrote:
Le 07/12/2015 03:01, Lew Wolfgang a écrit :
But now I have the unpleasant experience of having the touchpad buttons going away again. Tapping the pad doesn't work. The external usb mouse and keyboards don't work either. I'm going to give up on this one. The laptop is old and has only 2-GB of ram, maybe that's contributing to the non-deterministic behavior?
should not. I never had such problem. May be it's time to open a bug report with hardware infos?
jdd
Agreed,
Lew, there is no reason 2G shouldn't be enough mow the grass... synaptics should take care of the touchpad by default. If you are having issues, then it is likely a base config issue with the leap setup and your hardware, or there is an upstream issue with synaptics and the new kernels, etc.. (I can't see that being the probable cause, but it is likely one or the other)
My biggest concern would be graphics support for the radeon chipset in my laptop. Good to know intel is fine.
I'm not sure I know enough to file a bug report, there "seem" to be multiple issues, but there might be a common vector. Things I know: Remote USB mouse not detected. Remote USB keyboard not detected (back-lit keys flash approx 1-Hz) Touchpad intermittently looses use of it's buttons, including "tap" to select. (cursor okay) Maybe something funky with USB? I installed Ubuntu 14.04 on it last night thinking that if the issues were hardware related I'd see the same symptoms. Everything seemed to work okay, but external mouse/keyboard are dead this morning. I'll continue to fiddle with it, it may be a hardware issue? Regards, Lew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/07/2015 07:21 AM, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
Things I know:
Remote USB mouse not detected. Remote USB keyboard not detected (back-lit keys flash approx 1-Hz) Touchpad intermittently looses use of it's buttons, including "tap" to select. (cursor okay)
Maybe something funky with USB?
I installed Ubuntu 14.04 on it last night thinking that if the issues were hardware related I'd see the same symptoms. Everything seemed to work okay, but external mouse/keyboard are dead this morning. I'll continue to fiddle with it, it may be a hardware issue?
Okay, I confirmed that this is a hardware issue. Ubuntu borks too, but a little differently than Leap. But a bork by any other name remains a bork. The keyboard flashing was apparently accompanied with this in /var/log/kern.log: usb 5-1: reset full-speed USB device number 9 using uhci_hcd Sorry for the noise, I'll give Leap another try on different hardware. Regards, Lew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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David C. Rankin
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Lew Wolfgang
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