Hi Folks! I'm working with a project about programing. One of questions is 'what do you need in order to be a good programer?'. Have you some opinion about it??? / Vidor -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Vidor Demeter wrote:
Hi Folks!
I'm working with a project about programing. One of questions is 'what do you need in order to be a good programer?'.
* The ability to break a problem down into painfully small pieces. * Extreme focus. * Ability to analyze multiple solutions and evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of each, and choose the best solution. * Humility and social skills - NOT! -- George Toft http://www.georgetoft.com -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Hello,
* Humility and social skills - NOT!
That's funny. Georg -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
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I'm working with a project about programing. One of questions is 'what do you need in order to be a good programer?'. Have you some opinion about it???
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Vidor Demeter wrote:
Hi Folks!
I'm working with a project about programing. One of questions is 'what do you need in order to be a good programer?'. Have you some opinion about it???
You need to be able to mathematically model real life situations. Then it is just a matter of implementing the model in the language which you need to use. You also need to be a "stickler" for punctuation and syntax. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
A friend of mine who's a PhD Computer Scientist says that the reason programmers are in such short supply is the narrow band of intelligence required: 1. You've got to be pretty damned smart to be a programmer. 2. If you're just a little smarter than that, you'll soon become bored with programming. On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, zentara wrote:
Vidor Demeter wrote:
Hi Folks!
I'm working with a project about programing. One of questions is 'what do you need in order to be a good programer?'. Have you some opinion about it???
You need to be able to mathematically model real life situations. Then it is just a matter of implementing the model in the language which you need to use.
You also need to be a "stickler" for punctuation and syntax.
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-- Kenneth R. Kellum -- San Jose State University A scientific random survey demonstrating the value of a university education: Linus Torvalds: Has a degree. Bill Gates: Does not. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Did any one see the artical in the N.Y. Times about the study thAt found that mmost inept peaple beleve they are not inept , but actualy believe they are good at what they do. It seems that the inept have no idea they are inept unless told they are so. At 05:17 AM 1/20/2000 -0800, Kenneth Kellum wrote:
A friend of mine who's a PhD Computer Scientist says that the reason programmers are in such short supply is the narrow band of intelligence required:
1. You've got to be pretty damned smart to be a programmer.
2. If you're just a little smarter than that, you'll soon become bored with programming.
On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, zentara wrote:
Vidor Demeter wrote:
Hi Folks!
I'm working with a project about programing. One of questions is 'what do you need in order to be a good programer?'. Have you some opinion about it???
You need to be able to mathematically model real life situations. Then it is just a matter of implementing the model in the language which you need to use.
You also need to be a "stickler" for punctuation and syntax.
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A scientific random survey demonstrating the value of a university education:
Linus Torvalds: Has a degree. Bill Gates: Does not.
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i'd say programmers are born, and not made. i can program in several languages, but i am in no way a programmer. -- ======================================================================== Rocky McGaugh Atipa Linux Solutions Linux Systems Engineer www.atipa.com rocky@smluc.org rmcgaugh@atipa.com ======================================================================== On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Vidor Demeter wrote:
Hi Folks!
I'm working with a project about programing. One of questions is 'what do you need in order to be a good programer?'. Have you some opinion about it???
/ Vidor
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Patience , patience , and more patience A 17 inch moniter , Lots off cool tools to do every thing for you (just kidding on that one) and lots of coffee/Coke/pepsi At 07:24 AM 1/20/2000 +0100, Vidor Demeter wrote:
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I'm working with a project about programing. One of questions is 'what do you need in order to be a good programer?'. Have you some opinion about it???
/ Vidor
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A clear logical image of what you want the program to do. Experience that tells you the best way you should do it. Patience to turn it into something which could be described as "quality". but I am not a programmer. On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 03:09:35PM +0000, Samy Elashmawy wrote:
Patience , patience , and more patience
A 17 inch moniter , Lots off cool tools to do every thing for you (just kidding on that one) and lots of coffee/Coke/pepsi
At 07:24 AM 1/20/2000 +0100, Vidor Demeter wrote:
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I'm working with a project about programing. One of questions is 'what do you need in order to be a good programer?'. Have you some opinion about it???
/ Vidor
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Hi,
Thanks to everyone who answered my question.
It was very interesting to read all the opinions I
have got. It was funny to :) :)
My best regards
/ Vidor
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I'm working with a project about programing. One of questions is 'what do you need in order to be a good programer?'. Have you some opinion about it???
/ Vidor
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Vidor Demeter wrote:
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I'm working with a project about programing. One of questions is 'what do you need in order to be a good programer?'. Have you some opinion about it???
/ Vidor
A couple of decades ago, Edsger Dijkstra was asked that very same question. His answer was: "A thorough knowledge of one's native language." Dick Delp -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
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Vidor Demeter wrote:
Hi Folks!
I'm working with a project about programing. One of questions is 'what do you need in order to be a good programer?'. Have you some opinion about it???
/ Vidor
A couple of decades ago, Edsger Dijkstra was asked that very same question.
His answer was: "A thorough knowledge of one's native language."
Dijkstra was (and maybe still is) very proud of his English too, but in fact his writing was full of bloopers. And in his book ``A Discipline of Programming'' he made the argument that there was no point in testing programs because testing could only prove the presence of bugs, not their absence. He argued that the only way to have confidence in programs was to prove them correct mathematically. And he gave some examples of programs whose correctness he had demonstrated. When I read all of that, I was determined to debunk it. And sure enough, I discovered a big error in the initialization code of his convex hull program, an error that almost any test would have uncovered. Yes, testing can only prove the presence of bugs, not their absence. But that's a trivial corollary of the observation that nothing can prove the absence of bugs. Paul Abrahams -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
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