On Friday 11 April 2008 06:53:45 am mourik jan c heupink wrote:

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I've heard from Brainshare that the fastest way to run Windows 2003 is from within Xen.

Really..??

Or do you mean xen runs windows 2003 faster than other virtual machine technologies..?

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Ken Schneider 4/11/2008 2:35 PM >>> Kai Ponte pecked at the keyboard and wrote: On Friday 11 April 2008 06:53:45 am mourik jan c heupink wrote: I've heard from Brainshare that the fastest way to run Windows 2003 is from within Xen. Really..??

Or do you mean xen runs windows 2003 faster than other virtual machine technologies..?

Not sure - that is third-hand.

Sometimes I wish I had a third hand. :-) Hmmmmm three hands or four sure would come in handy at times when working with servers / computers. On to what I have heard about win 2003 running faster in XEN. I have been told that it runs better on XEN as in its more stable . I will know soon. maybe by this time next month I will have my server upgrade approved an will be able to let people know shortly after that. jack -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Jack Malone wrote:

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On to what I have heard about win 2003 running faster in XEN. I have been told that it runs better on XEN as in its more stable . I will know soon. maybe by this time next month I will have my server upgrade approved an will be able to let people know shortly after that.

This seems counter intuitive. What in xen could recover from instability in Win 2003 itself?

No matter what hardware you're running on, Xen is providing the same (virtual) hardware that W2003 thinks it's running on, so it could be the most debugged "hardware" for it. Alternatively, Xen just emulates a selection of hardware on which Xen is particularly stable. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Sam Clemens wrote:

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John Andersen wrote:

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On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Jack Malone wrote:

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On to what I have heard about win 2003 running faster in XEN. I have been told that it runs better on XEN as in its more stable . I will know soon. maybe by this time next month I will have my server upgrade approved an will be able to let people know shortly after that.

This seems counter intuitive. What in xen could recover from instability in Win 2003 itself?

No matter what hardware you're running on, Xen is providing the same (virtual) hardware that W2003 thinks it's running on, so it could be the most debugged "hardware" for it. Alternatively, Xen just emulates a selection of hardware on which Xen is particularly stable.

Of course this explanation suggests that hardware faults are the cause of Windows instability or slowness when running nativly. I find that very difficult to believe. And it still does not explain why the claim is made that Windows runs better under Xen than it runs naively. Hardware faults, to the extent they exist, would be still there. -- ----------JSA--------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Ken Schneider wrote:

Kai Ponte pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

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On Friday 11 April 2008 06:53:45 am mourik jan c heupink wrote:

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I've heard from Brainshare that the fastest way to run Windows 2003 is from within Xen. Really..??

Or do you mean xen runs windows 2003 faster than other virtual machine technologies..?

Not sure - that is third-hand.

Sometimes I wish I had a third hand. :-)

Yeah, then you could keep your one hand on the right-hand side of the keyboard. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Does VMware need a new kernel? Here's my problem I have alot of remote servers and I really want to test Xen (I have it installed on one actually) but it requires me to bootup with a diffrent kernel, something I don't want to do without the machine in front of me, incase it crashes. On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 1:06 PM, John Andersen wrote:

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 5:25 AM, Donald D Henson wrote:

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I have a situation where I need Windows & Linus running at the same time. I currently have Linux (server & workstation) running on my server hardware and Windows (workstation) running on a network connected laptop, a satisfactory workaround but hardly a long term solution.

I've been running a windows machine using the free Vmware Server inside my OpenSuse server for months on end with no problem. It boots and shuts down when the server boots and the tasks it has to run are in the startup folder.

The windows VM runs essentially headless but can be accessed via the remote console from anywhere. Absolutely reliable as far as I can tell. Speed-wise its adequate, but I can't be sure its comparable to hardware.

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On 27 April 08, Andreas van dem Helge wrote:

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 1:06 PM, John Andersen wrote:

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On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 5:25 AM, Donald D Henson wrote:

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I have a situation where I need Windows & Linus running at the same time. I currently have Linux (server & workstation) running on my server hardware and Windows (workstation) running on a network connected laptop, a satisfactory workaround but hardly a long term solution.

I've been running a windows machine using the free Vmware Server inside my OpenSuse server for months on end with no problem. It boots and shuts down when the server boots and the tasks it has to run are in the startup folder.

The windows VM runs essentially headless but can be accessed via the remote console from anywhere. Absolutely reliable as far as I can tell. Speed-wise its adequate, but I can't be sure its comparable to hardware.

Does VMware need a new kernel?

Here's my problem I have alot of remote servers and I really want to test Xen (I have it installed on one actually) but it requires me to bootup with a diffrent kernel, something I don't want to do without the machine in front of me, incase it crashes.

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