On 05/08/2012 04:32 PM, Nate Pearlstein wrote:

Anyone else having trouble with the latest flash update 11.2.202.235.

I had to revert to 11.2.202.233 as the new one crashes in seconds or less after starting video on cnn.

zero problems with 11.2.202.235-14.1 on my 32 bit openSUSE 11.4 with intel graphics.. -- dd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 05/08/2012 05:09 PM, DenverD wrote:

On 05/08/2012 04:32 PM, Nate Pearlstein wrote:

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Anyone else having trouble with the latest flash update 11.2.202.235.

I had to revert to 11.2.202.233 as the new one crashes in seconds or less after starting video on cnn.

zero problems with 11.2.202.235-14.1 on my 32 bit openSUSE 11.4 with intel graphics..

well, i spoke (wrote) too soon.. the flash pig named 11.2.202.235 crashes around 1 out of every three tries (no matter where)...have rolled back to .233 -- dd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 10:59:03PM +0200, Anders Johansson wrote:

On Tuesday 08 May 2012 22:23:51 DenverD wrote:

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On 05/08/2012 05:09 PM, DenverD wrote:

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On 05/08/2012 04:32 PM, Nate Pearlstein wrote:

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Anyone else having trouble with the latest flash update 11.2.202.235.

I had to revert to 11.2.202.233 as the new one crashes in seconds or less after starting video on cnn.

zero problems with 11.2.202.235-14.1 on my 32 bit openSUSE 11.4 with intel graphics..

well, i spoke (wrote) too soon..

the flash pig named 11.2.202.235 crashes around 1 out of every three tries (no matter where)...have rolled back to .233

I see problems with the new flash player too, but I'm not sure if downgrading to a version with known security holes with exploits in the wild is the best solution for it

on the theory that the more ppl chime in here the better statistics we'll get i'll say i saw this thread, my zypper up showed me a new flash coming down, so i went to cnn.com and played video for two hours at least -- never a hiccup -- sc suse 11.4, kde 4.7.4, 64-bit -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Tuesday, May 08, 2012 04:24:30 PM sc wrote:

On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 10:59:03PM +0200, Anders Johansson wrote:

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On Tuesday 08 May 2012 22:23:51 DenverD wrote:

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On 05/08/2012 05:09 PM, DenverD wrote:

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On 05/08/2012 04:32 PM, Nate Pearlstein wrote:

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Anyone else having trouble with the latest flash update 11.2.202.235.

I had to revert to 11.2.202.233 as the new one crashes in seconds or less after starting video on cnn.

zero problems with 11.2.202.235-14.1 on my 32 bit openSUSE 11.4 with intel graphics..

well, i spoke (wrote) too soon..

the flash pig named 11.2.202.235 crashes around 1 out of every three tries (no matter where)...have rolled back to .233

I see problems with the new flash player too, but I'm not sure if downgrading to a version with known security holes with exploits in the wild is the best solution for it

on the theory that the more ppl chime in here the better statistics we'll get i'll say i saw this thread, my zypper up showed me a new flash coming down, so i went to cnn.com and played video for two hours at least -- never a hiccup

openSUSE 12.1 KDE or GNOME 32 bit doesn't look negatively impacted by Adobe Flash-Player 11.2.201.235 updates (plugins included). Both, KDE and GNOME 32 bit works pretty fine post updates and there is no crashes watching Flash videos. So, only 64 bit systems are affected by the broken Flash-Player updates (11.2.202.235). It doesn't matter how many webpage reloads Flash video crashes anyway. Regards, -- Ricardo Chung | Panama Linux Ambassador openSUSE Projects -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 11:56:38PM -0500, Ricardo Chung wrote:

On Tuesday, May 08, 2012 04:24:30 PM sc wrote:

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On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 10:59:03PM +0200, Anders Johansson wrote:

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On Tuesday 08 May 2012 22:23:51 DenverD wrote:

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On 05/08/2012 05:09 PM, DenverD wrote:

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On 05/08/2012 04:32 PM, Nate Pearlstein wrote:

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Anyone else having trouble with the latest flash update 11.2.202.235.

I had to revert to 11.2.202.233 as the new one crashes in seconds or less after starting video on cnn.

zero problems with 11.2.202.235-14.1 on my 32 bit openSUSE 11.4 with intel graphics..

well, i spoke (wrote) too soon..

the flash pig named 11.2.202.235 crashes around 1 out of every three tries (no matter where)...have rolled back to .233

I see problems with the new flash player too, but I'm not sure if downgrading to a version with known security holes with exploits in the wild is the best solution for it

on the theory that the more ppl chime in here the better statistics we'll get i'll say i saw this thread, my zypper up showed me a new flash coming down, so i went to cnn.com and played video for two hours at least -- never a hiccup

Sure, something is going wrong with plugin-flash-player update 11.2.202.235. It crashes on openSUSE KDE 64 bit.

If you go directly to YouTube probably HTML5 will do the job instead Adobe flash-player. Reloading the web page doesn't make it better. I already sent a report to Adobe.

I'll be back later with report on 32 bit GNOME and KDE

Please open a bugreport to collect this information, on the mailinglist it will be lost and gone in some days. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Wed, 09 May 2012 15:07:00 +0530, Steven Hess wrote:

It's working fine on two 12.1 x64 systems here. I use it extensively. No crashing no weirdness.

that's why a bug report would be the way to go -- to find out what causes this. i also don't have problems with the new flash update (but don't use it extensively). in a proper bug report once could figure out what actually causes these crashes: x86_64, kernel version, video driver, or what. i won't raise one though, because i haven't experienced the problem yet. i would comment & supply my system's information, as an example where it doesn't crash. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Same problem here. Asus N53S with optimus. The latest flah packages crash both with nvidia and with intel card. Reverted back to 233 ones, they work fine. Regards, Francesco On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:50 AM, DenverD wrote:

On 05/09/2012 07:43 AM, DenverD wrote:

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instant flash crash, _every_ time...even AFTER reverting to .233

so, maybe it was not a pure .235 problem ??

i have not avoided writing a bug due to laziness..

instead, after having many instant crashes with .233 (at CNN and other places) they _suddenly_ ended (have NO idea why)..

then, with no problems with .233 for many hours, i went to the new version again..

and, have had zero problems with .235 in about 24 hours..

therefore, i'll not write the "could not duplicate" bugzilla.

or, should i?

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On 10/05/12 20:27, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:

On 05/10/2012 12:02 PM, Francesco Teodori wrote:

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Same problem here. Asus N53S with optimus. The latest flah packages crash both with nvidia and with intel card. Reverted back to 233 ones, they work fine. Same here with intel 915 builtin x86_64

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkHukNX7XLc&feature=g-feat

Absolutely no problems with this video using 11.2.202.235 (x86_64 system with nVidia 295.49 driver) and Firefox 12.0 - and this with Use Hardware Acceleration selected. BC -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Am 10.05.2012 12:27, schrieb Togan Muftuoglu:

On 05/10/2012 12:02 PM, Francesco Teodori wrote:

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Same problem here. Asus N53S with optimus. The latest flah packages crash both with nvidia and with intel card. Reverted back to 233 ones, they work fine. Same here with intel 915 builtin x86_64

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkHukNX7XLc&feature=g-feat

No problem here with that video with the .235 flash on 12.1 x86_64 and i915 (Intel Sandybridge Mobile). Tried 720 and 1080 full screen and embedded - no crash. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 05/10/2012 01:37 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:

On 10/05/12 21:11, Basil Chupin wrote:

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On 10/05/12 20:27, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:

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On 05/10/2012 12:02 PM, Francesco Teodori wrote:

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Same problem here. Asus N53S with optimus. The latest flah packages crash both with nvidia and with intel card. Reverted back to 233 ones, they work fine. Same here with intel 915 builtin x86_64

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkHukNX7XLc&feature=g-feat

Absolutely no problems with this video using 11.2.202.235 (x86_64 system with nVidia 295.49 driver) and Firefox 12.0 - and this with Use Hardware Acceleration selected.

Oh, forgot to mention that I am also using kernel 3.3.4-1-desktop and not the (default) 3.1.x kernel for 12.1.

3.3.4-1-default here -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 05/10/2012 03:26 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:

On 10/05/12 21:44, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:

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3.3.4-1-default here

That's interesting.....

I did a clean install of 12.1 on a new computer and it installed the *-desktop kernel (which I upgraded to 3.3.4-1 only this afternoon).

I am wondering why the installation should choose *-default for you and *-desktop for me?

Because I own the machine and told to install what I want not what it wants ;) I even have a laptop with no postfix/exim/sendmail installed because it is a laptop not a server and I can use the mail server I have or use gmail or whatever that is doing the mail services for me. Togan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 05/10/2012 03:54 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:

I, too, "own [my] machine" but as far as the kernel was concerned I allowed it to pick what was best for the 8-core cpu I have :-) .

There was a discussion about the difference between the "default" and the "desktop" kernels and, if I recall correctly, the "desktop" is optimised for better performance which is not that important on a server with regards to video latency for example.

When you were installing, did the installation select "desktop" and you overrode this by deliberately selecting "default"?

Can't remember exactly but most probably I have chosen it myself among many other things Togan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 05/11/2012 07:16 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:

On 10/05/12 23:59, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:

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Can't remember exactly but most probably I have chosen it myself among many other things

OK, fair enough. But out of curiosity, why did you select -default? Any particular reason?

Habit I guess, acccept for netbooks I always choose default -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 05/10/2012 07:11 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:

On 10/05/12 20:27, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:

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On 05/10/2012 12:02 PM, Francesco Teodori wrote:

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Same problem here. Asus N53S with optimus. The latest flah packages crash both with nvidia and with intel card. Reverted back to 233 ones, they work fine. Same here with intel 915 builtin x86_64

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkHukNX7XLc&feature=g-feat

Absolutely no problems with this video using 11.2.202.235 (x86_64 system with nVidia 295.49 driver) and Firefox 12.0 - and this with Use Hardware Acceleration selected.

BC

Sorry for the newb question, but here goes. Where do you select "use hardware acceleration"? Is this an application specific selection, or something that is done in configuration? -- G.O. Box #1: 12.1 | KDE 4.8.2 | AMD Athlon X3 | 64 | nVidia C61 GeForce 7025 | 4GB RAM Box #2 12.1 | KDE 4.8.3 | Pentium 4 (2core) | 32 | Intel 82915G | 2GB RAM Lap #1: 12.1 | KDE 4.8.2 | Core2 Duo T8100 | 64 | Intel 965GM | 3GB RAM Lap #2: 12.1 | KDE 4.8.2 | Core Duo T2400 | 32 | NVIDIA Quadro NVS 120 | 2GB RAM learning openSUSE and loving it -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 05/11/2012 09:08 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:

On 11/05/12 16:53, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:

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On 05/11/2012 07:16 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Can't remember exactly but most probably I have chosen it myself among many other things OK, fair enough. But out of curiosity, why did you select -default? Any

On 10/05/12 23:59, Togan Muftuoglu wrote: particular reason? Habit I guess, acccept for netbooks I always choose default

OK, thanks.

Now it is getting interesting, with desktop kernel ( 3.3.5-1-desktop ) flash is not crashing ( that is 235) with or without hardware accelaration. I will need to try it with default kernel as well to see if there might me a kernel related issue going on. Does anybody know when the flash crashes where does it dump the garbage Togan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 12/05/12 23:06, George Olson wrote:

On 05/12/2012 05:36 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:

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On 12/05/12 19:31, George Olson wrote:

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On 05/10/2012 07:11 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:

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On 10/05/12 20:27, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:

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On 05/10/2012 12:02 PM, Francesco Teodori wrote:

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Same problem here. Asus N53S with optimus. The latest flah packages crash both with nvidia and with intel card. Reverted back to 233 ones, they work fine. Same here with intel 915 builtin x86_64

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkHukNX7XLc&feature=g-feat

Absolutely no problems with this video using 11.2.202.235 (x86_64 system with nVidia 295.49 driver) and Firefox 12.0 - and this with Use Hardware Acceleration selected.

BC

Sorry for the newb question, but here goes. Where do you select "use hardware acceleration"? Is this an application specific selection, or something that is done in configuration?

When you are on the video itself - ie, about to actually try and play it, for example - right-click and you will see Flash's "drop-down" menu (if you want to call it that) and you will see the tick box re the Hardware Acceleration.

BC

Ah, Ok I see. Thanks.

No problemo. A pleasure to be of assistance. BC -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Saturday, May 12, 2012 01:33:28 PM Togan Muftuoglu wrote:

On 05/11/2012 09:08 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:

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On 11/05/12 16:53, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:

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On 05/11/2012 07:16 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:

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On 10/05/12 23:59, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:

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Can't remember exactly but most probably I have chosen it myself among many other things

OK, fair enough. But out of curiosity, why did you select -default? Any particular reason?

Habit I guess, acccept for netbooks I always choose default

OK, thanks.

Now it is getting interesting, with desktop kernel ( 3.3.5-1-desktop ) flash is not crashing ( that is 235) with or without hardware accelaration. I will need to try it with default kernel as well to see if there might me a kernel related issue going on.

Does anybody know when the flash crashes where does it dump the garbage

Togan

I found a silly solution to all flash-player video crashes and the people on it turning their skin blue. Flash-Player 235 made some changes on video behavior on my side and other people's computer on this mailing list. I did some tests with 32 bit and 64 bit systems, GNOME and KDE, openSUSE 11.4 and 12.1. I did some tests with different video card adapters including nVIDIA, ATI, GMA and Pineview Intel Controller. Including propietary and free drivers. It looks related to propietary drivers installed and 64 bit systems. Same hardware with 32 bit system and free drivers are not impacted disregard the video adapter cards. Conclusion: If you find the Video Flash Player Crash or people showin blue skins. Reload and/or Go to YouTube or any video hoster. Stop the video playing. Mouse Right- Click on Video image will show a contextual dialog. Move the pointer to Setting option and press Left-Click on it. It will show several tab. Choose Display Tab, Uncheck the Hardware Acceleration box. Reload your favorite video and voila. No more crashes. Regards, -- Ricardo Chung | Panama Linux Ambassador openSUSE Projects -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Sunday, May 13, 2012 03:48:02 AM Carl Hartung wrote:

On Sat, 12 May 2012 22:19:37 -0500 Ricardo Chung wrote:

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I found a silly solution to all flash-player video crashes and the people on it turning their skin blue.

Flash-Player 235 made some changes on video behavior on my side and other people's computer on this mailing list.

I did some tests with 32 bit and 64 bit systems, GNOME and KDE, openSUSE 11.4 and 12.1.

I did some tests with different video card adapters including nVIDIA, ATI, GMA and Pineview Intel Controller. Including propietary and free drivers.

It looks related to propietary drivers installed and 64 bit systems. Same hardware with 32 bit system and free drivers are not impacted disregard the video adapter cards.

Conclusion:

If you find the Video Flash Player Crash or people showin blue skins. Reload and/or Go to YouTube or any video hoster. Stop the video playing. Mouse Right- Click on Video image will show a contextual dialog. Move the pointer to Setting option and press Left-Click on it. It will show several tab. Choose Display Tab, Uncheck the Hardware Acceleration box. Reload your favorite video and voila. No more crashes.

Regards,

Hi Ricardo,

I rolled flashplayer back to the last working (for me) version and locked it there. I'm too busy to run experiments right now. I'll try your solution and report back soon. Thank you for doing the hard work and writing such a clear description! :-)

regards,

Carl

Welcome. If you find the workaround useful post your comments. I did a more extensive tests It has been hard to find what is causing the Adobe Flash-Player 11.2.202.235 video crash and ocassionally showing people on video with blue skins. 1) I had found no issues on 32 bit system at all on my last research. Not completely true right now. Some unpredictable conditions appears to show the flash video crashes at early beginning or a few minutes later it begins or jumping from one video to another. Ramdomly, it will come. 2) It does not matter what video card adapter (integrated or modular), drivers type (free or propietary), kernel type (2.6.37 or 3.1.10-1.9)-not tested on upper kernel yet or derivatives (desktop, default, pae, etc..) Some of Video Card Adapters already tested: -nVIDIA Quaddro NVS160M (NV98) -nVIDIA GeForce FX7200 -ATI Radeon HD 4850 -Intel i915 -Intel GMA 915GM -Intel Pineview Integrated Graphic Controller - Everyone crashed on different conditions. Not happen on older Flash-Player versions. 3) The only temporary workaround is still If you find the Video Flash Player Crash or people showin blue skins. Reload it and Go to YouTube or any video hoster. Stop the video playing. Point your Pointer or Mouse Right- Click on Video image and it will show a contextual dialog. Move the pointer to Setting option and press Left- Click on it. It will show several tab. Choose Display Tab, Uncheck the Hardware Acceleration box. Reload your favorite video and voila. No more crashes or people with coloured skins. Regards, -- Ricardo Chung | Panama Linux Ambassador openSUSE Projects -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org