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Lihle

24 Jul 2005 24 Jul '05

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Hi I really do not like to complain, but is there a way I can reduce the number of seeminly repeating email. Or can I just receive an email that has the problem then a solution instead of every kind of unsolicited email. Not knowing where the conversation started makes it hard to understand. My next option was to unscribe, which I really do not want to do. I am still using windows because I do not know how to setup my SuSE 9.1 to connect to the internet. I need a step by guide please. I attempted with my motoroal internal modem but when prompted to set up my mail accounts I got confused. I have started reading unix books with the hope to understanding better. Which programming language does Linux use for creating applications? I noticed that the openCD has C and C++ header files, a compiler for C and C++. The question is can it also have the java compiler and create applications in java? Best regards, Thembelihle Tshabalala lihle@eject.co.za

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Andreas Girardet

7 Sep 7 Sep

05:13

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I really do not like to complain, but is there a way I can reduce

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number of seeminly repeating email. Or can I just receive an email

Hi to you to the that

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has the problem then a solution instead of every kind of unsolicited email. Not knowing where the conversation started makes it hard to understand. My next option was to unscribe, which I really do not want to do.

You will find that this mailing list will become even more high traffic once 10.0 is released. I consider this to be a fairly low traffic list compared to some others I am on ;) after all it is a list for developers. I do agree that we need a list like opensuse-users, which would probably be more suitable to yourself. Currently we have not enough lists. But the discussion about packages has to happen on the list with the most amount of users to be in any way productive. This lists is the only way how we as a community can communicate. The purpose of this list is to create the openSUSE project.

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I am still using windows because I do not know how to setup my SuSE 9.1 to connect to the internet. I need a step by guide please. I attempted with my motoroal internal modem but when prompted to set up my mail accounts I got confused. I have started reading unix books with the hope to understanding better.

I think you should probably seek help in one of the SUSE web forum's. This is a developer mailing list for all those that want to participate in the openSUSE project itself. I rather suspect that the traffic on this particular list will increase more than it will decrease.

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Which programming language does Linux use for creating applications? I noticed that the openCD has C and C++ header files, a compiler for C and C++. The question is can it also have the java compiler and create applications in java?

Linux distro's use mainly C, C++, but also java, mono (c#), fortran, pascal and so many others that I cannot even think about them all ;) Andreas

Sonja Krause-Harder

09:32

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On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 11:13:41PM -0600, Andreas Girardet wrote:

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I do agree that we need a list like opensuse-users, which would probably be more suitable to yourself.

For users there are the existing suse-linux mailing lists linked from http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/Communicate : suse-linux-e (english), suse-linux (german), suse-linux-ja (japanese) and suse-linux-s (spanish). Please use these, and refer people asking for user-level lists to them! cheers, Sonja -- Sonja Krause-Harder (skh@suse.de) Research & Development SUSE Linux Products GmbH

Langsley

21:15

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On Wednesday September 7 2005 12:13 am, Andreas Girardet wrote:

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I consider this to be a fairly low traffic list compared to some others I am on ;) after all it is a list for developers.

I do agree that we need a list like opensuse-users, which would probably be more suitable to yourself. Currently we have not enough lists.

I had no idea that this list was intended for developers only The description on the opensusa.org site says: "openSUSE Project Mailing Lists The following mailing lists pertain to the openSUSE project, its roadmap and issues related to the community. opensuse for general discussions about the openSUSE project. opensuse-announce is a read-only list for announcements concerning the openSUSE project. opensuse-optimize is a project that cares for optimizing openSUSE. That description, "opensuse for general discussions about the openSUSE project."clearly says nothing about being for developers only. In light of this new information, I apologize for my earlier post Re: Home on its own partition. Obviously I am not one of the developers, so I will but out. Please accept my apologies. Thanks. -- LTR bulloved@nitline.com

Joseph Smith

21:44

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Don't leave because someone misrepresented the list. You should stay, there's plenty to learn from this list. Joseph Smith www.javacard.info On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 16:15 -0500, Langsley wrote:

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On Wednesday September 7 2005 12:13 am, Andreas Girardet wrote:

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I consider this to be a fairly low traffic list compared to some others I am on ;) after all it is a list for developers.

I do agree that we need a list like opensuse-users, which would probably be more suitable to yourself. Currently we have not enough lists.

I had no idea that this list was intended for developers only The description on the opensusa.org site says:

"openSUSE Project Mailing Lists The following mailing lists pertain to the openSUSE project, its roadmap and issues related to the community.

opensuse for general discussions about the openSUSE project.

opensuse-announce is a read-only list for announcements concerning the openSUSE project.

opensuse-optimize is a project that cares for optimizing openSUSE.

That description, "opensuse for general discussions about the openSUSE project."clearly says nothing about being for developers only.

In light of this new information, I apologize for my earlier post Re: Home on its own partition. Obviously I am not one of the developers, so I will but out.

Please accept my apologies. Thanks.

Joseph Smith

21:42

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"This is a developer mailing list for all those that want to participate in the openSUSE project itself." Where does it state this is a "Developer" mailing list ? It's called OpenSUSE, not OpenSUSE-Developer. I've been on this list for a few days and haven't see a "developer" question yet ! Joseph Smith www.javacard.info On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 23:13 -0600, Andreas Girardet wrote:

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Hi to you to

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I really do not like to complain, but is there a way I can reduce the number of seeminly repeating email. Or can I just receive an email that has the problem then a solution instead of every kind of unsolicited email. Not knowing where the conversation started makes it hard to understand. My next option was to unscribe, which I really do not want to do.

You will find that this mailing list will become even more high traffic once 10.0 is released. I consider this to be a fairly low traffic list compared to some others I am on ;) after all it is a list for developers.

I do agree that we need a list like opensuse-users, which would probably be more suitable to yourself. Currently we have not enough lists. But the discussion about packages has to happen on the list with the most amount of users to be in any way productive. This lists is the only way how we as a community can communicate.

The purpose of this list is to create the openSUSE project.

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I am still using windows because I do not know how to setup my SuSE 9.1 to connect to the internet. I need a step by guide please. I attempted with my motoroal internal modem but when prompted to set up my mail accounts I got confused. I have started reading unix books with the hope to understanding better.

I think you should probably seek help in one of the SUSE web forum's. This is a developer mailing list for all those that want to participate in the openSUSE project itself. I rather suspect that the traffic on this particular list will increase more than it will decrease.

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Which programming language does Linux use for creating applications? I noticed that the openCD has C and C++ header files, a compiler for C and C++. The question is can it also have the java compiler and create applications in java?

Linux distro's use mainly C, C++, but also java, mono (c#), fortran, pascal and so many others that I cannot even think about them all ;)

Andreas

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Winston Graeme

8 Sep 8 Sep

02:31

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I agree with big amount of mails ... that started maybe 3 or so days ago .. quite a few new members now posting & on seemingly interesting topics .. In what kind of program is it easiest to handle all the mails (browser is my current thing & its a major pain now with increased traffic) ? --- Joseph Smith wrote:

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"This is a developer mailing list for all those that want to participate in the openSUSE project itself." .........................

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Peter Flodin

03:26

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On 08/09/05, Winston Graeme wrote:

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I agree with big amount of mails ... that started maybe 3 or so days ago .. quite a few new members now posting & on seemingly interesting topics ..

If you think this is bad...wait until the more stable releases are released as the number of users will likely grow exponentially. This leads to the earlier thread http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse/2005-Aug/0917.html on introducing an official web forum similar to other distros. Christoph was going to get report back, but I never saw a progress report... On 8/24/05, Christoph Thiel wrote:

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I'll try to report back on some internal progress on this topic later today, or maybe tomorrow...

Pflodo

Christoph Thiel

07:49

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On Thu, 8 Sep 2005, Peter Flodin wrote:

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This leads to the earlier thread http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse/2005-Aug/0917.html on introducing an official web forum similar to other distros.

Christoph was going to get report back, but I never saw a progress report...

Sorry, there wasn't much progress yet, as almost everyone was overloaded due to the current beta phase. As soon as SUSE Linux 10.0 is gold, we will get back to this topic... Regards Christoph

houghi

16:33

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On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 01:26:18PM +1000, Peter Flodin wrote:

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On 08/09/05, Winston Graeme wrote:

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I agree with big amount of mails ... that started maybe 3 or so days ago .. quite a few new members now posting & on seemingly interesting topics ..

If you think this is bad...wait until the more stable releases are released as the number of users will likely grow exponentially.

I am not afraid of that. It is just if the maintainers don't take serious steps against top-posters and HTML posters, I am out of here. -- houghi http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/Making_a_DVD_from_CDs

meister＠netz00.com

10:22

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Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2005 04:31 schrieb Winston Graeme:

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In what kind of program is it easiest to handle all the mails (browser is my current thing & its a major pain now with increased traffic) ?

kmail -- mdc

Randall R Schulz

7 Sep 7 Sep

05:15

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Hi, On Saturday 23 July 2005 22:00, Lihle wrote:

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Hi

I really do not like to complain, but is there a way I can reduce the number of seeminly repeating email. Or can I just receive an email that has the problem then a solution instead of every kind of unsolicited email. Not knowing where the conversation started makes it hard to understand. My next option was to unscribe, which I really do not want to do.

This is a high-volume list. There's no way around that, but there is essentially no spam (if that's what you mean by "unsolicited") getting through the mailing list server. If you use a mailer that understands threads and you enable that feature, the list will be much more comprehensible. I believe all the common Linux-based mailers support threads. Under Windows, Eudora and the Mozilla mailers (Mozilla Mail and Thunderbird) support threads, but notably (I'd say notoriously) Outlook and Outlook Express do not, to the eternal frustration of anyone who must participate in mail dialogs that include such users... Beyond that, there's no software that will alter the submissions created by the list's users. I'll grant you quoting is far too liberal here, but unless the list participants themselves enforce a more conservative quoting regimen, then individual posts will continue to be highly redundant within a given topic thread.

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I am still using windows because I do not know how to setup my SuSE 9.1 to connect to the internet. I need a step by guide please. I attempted with my motoroal internal modem but when prompted to set up my mail accounts I got confused. I have started reading unix books with the hope to understanding better.

Whatever information you used to set up these accounts under Windows is essentially the same you'll use to set up Linux counterparts. You mention SuSE Linux 9.1 Professional. This list is for people participating in the pre-release testing for SuSE Linux 10.0. That fundamentally alters the nature of the exchange here. Perhaps you should subscribe to SuSE-Linux-E. But keep in mind the volume there is comparable to that seen on this list.

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Which programming language does Linux use for creating applications? I noticed that the openCD has C and C++ header files, a compiler for C and C++. The question is can it also have the java compiler and create applications in java?

Linux programming can be done in C, C++, Fortran, Lisp, Scheme, C#, Java, Perl, Python, Ruby, awk, TCL/Tk, shell (various) and more. As far as Java goes, the Sun, Gnu and IBM compilers are all available.

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Best regards, Thembelihle Tshabalala

Good luck. Randall Schulz

Marcus Cooper

06:53

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Hi Thembelihle

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I really do not like to complain, but is there a way I can reduce the number of seeminly repeating email. Or can I just receive an email that has the problem then a solution instead of every kind of unsolicited email. Not knowing where the conversation started makes it hard to understand. My next option was to unscribe, which I really do not want to do.

If you just looking for support I would (and have and do) check out the Novell support forums on the news servers You can do this via the web or a news reader, Thunderbird or Outlook express will work fine. The forums address is http://support.novell.com/forums/2su.html which will take you to both the web ones and the news ones. have fun Marcus -- Photos : www.flickr.com/photos/marcusc Blog : marcusbrain.blogspot.com `The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side.' HST

houghi

07:00

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On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 07:53:22AM +0100, Marcus Cooper wrote:

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Hi Thembelihle

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I really do not like to complain, but is there a way I can reduce the number of seeminly repeating email. Or can I just receive an email that has the problem then a solution instead of every kind of unsolicited email. Not knowing where the conversation started makes it hard to understand. My next option was to unscribe, which I really do not want to do.

If you just looking for support I would (and have and do) check out the Novell support forums on the news servers

or the unofficial news:alt.os.linux.suse First read their FAQ at http://www.plainfaqs.org/linux/ -- houghi http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/Making_a_DVD_from_CDs

Marcus Cooper

07:13

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Houghi

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or the unofficial news:alt.os.linux.suse First read their FAQ at http://www.plainfaqs.org/linux/

I have no experience of the forums you suggested, just the Novell ones are full of people asking the newbie type questions and everyone learning together (apart from the sysops). They helped me lots. have fun Marcus -- Photos : www.flickr.com/photos/marcusc Blog : marcusbrain.blogspot.com `The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side.' HST

houghi

10:46

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On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 08:13:44AM +0100, Marcus Cooper wrote:

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Houghi

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or the unofficial news:alt.os.linux.suse First read their FAQ at http://www.plainfaqs.org/linux/

I have no experience of the forums you suggested, just the Novell ones are full of people asking the newbie type questions and everyone learning together (apart from the sysops). They helped me lots.

The one I gave as well. The difference is that there are no sysops. -- houghi http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/Making_a_DVD_from_CDs

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Andreas Girardet
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Langsley
Lihle
Marcus Cooper
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Peter Flodin
Randall R Schulz
Sonja Krause-Harder
Winston Graeme