On Sunday, June 27, 2010 12:58:48 pm Felix Miata wrote:

On 2010/06/27 12:36 (GMT+0700) C. Brouerius van Nidek composed:

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After some technical problems with my Pentium III mainboard I ran snip Got it working but I am still not able to repair my 11.2. The information very early after the boot of grub is more or less, could not find /dev/sdb3 snip I have checked the partition (ext4) with fsck, looked at the partition with Yast but was not able to see anything out of the ordinary. Can somebody give me a solution?

Not without more information. snip As far as I can see, the drive is still recognised as sdb3 in my new setup. I have compared the two sets of data and do not see a problem. Here follows the information I gathered:

Data from the 11.2 partition. ====================== device.map ------------------ (hd1) /dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_SV0412H_0626J1FW314667 (hd0) /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST34313A_6CR05V3W fstab _________ LABEL=suse112november / ext4 acl,user_xattr 1 1 LABEL=home /home ext3 acl,user_xattr 1 2 LABEL=extra2 /extra2 ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_SV0412H_0626J1FW314667-part5 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST34313A_6CR05V3W-part1 /drdos vfat users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0 proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 sysfs /sys sysfs noauto 0 0 debugfs /sys/kernel/debug debugfs noauto 0 0 usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs noauto 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST34313A_6CR05V3W-part2 /extra1 auto noauto,user 0 0 LABEL=suse111 /suse11.1 auto noauto,user 0 0 LABEL=reserve3 /reserve3 ext3 defaults 1 2 LABEL=suselxde /suselxde ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST320413A_7ED1TGXF-part5 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST320413A_7ED1TGXF-part1 /drdos2 vfat users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST320413A_7ED1TGXF-part6 /xtra1 ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST320413A_7ED1TGXF-part7 /usr ext3 acl,user_xattr 1 1 Grub.conf __________ setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 --force-lba (hd0) (hd1,0) quit menu.lst __________ # Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Mon Apr 12 22:16:32 WIT 2010 # THIS FILE WILL BE PARTIALLY OVERWRITTEN by perl-Bootloader # Configure custom boot parameters for updated kernels in /etc/sysconfig/bootloader default 0 timeout 8 gfxmenu (hd1,2)/boot/message ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux### title Desktop -- openSUSE 11.2 - 2.6.31.12-0.2 root (hd1,2) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31.12-0.2-desktop root=/dev/disk/by- label/suse112november repair=1 resume=/dev/disk/by-id/ata- SAMSUNG_SV0412H_0626J1FW314667-part5 lapic splash=silent quiet showopts vga=0x314 initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.31.12-0.2-desktop ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: failsafe### title Failsafe -- openSUSE 11.2 - 2.6.31.12-0.2 root (hd1,2) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31.12-0.2-desktop root=/dev/sdb3 showopts apm=off noresume nosmp maxcpus=0 edd=off powersaved=off nohz=off highres=off processor.max_cstate=1 x11failsafe vga=0x314 initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.31.12-0.2-desktop ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: windows### title DrDos rootnoverify (hd0,0) chainloader +1 title openSUSE11.1 root (hd1,2) kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb1 repair=1 lapic splash=silent quiet showopts vga=0x314 initrd /boot/initrd ============================== Here the same output from the 11.3RC1. ============================== device.map ------------------ (hd1) /dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_SV0412H_0626J1FW314667 (hd0) /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST34313A_6CR05V3W fstab _________ /dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_SV0412H_0626J1FW314667-part5 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_SV0412H_0626J1FW314667-part1 / ext3 acl,user_xattr 1 1 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_SV0412H_0626J1FW314667-part8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST34313A_6CR05V3W-part1 /DrDos vfat users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0 proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 sysfs /sys sysfs noauto 0 0 debugfs /sys/kernel/debug debugfs noauto 0 0 usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs noauto 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST34313A_6CR05V3W-part2 /extra1 ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_SV0412H_0626J1FW314667-part9 /extra2 ext4 defaults 1 2 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_SV0412H_0626J1FW314667-part6 /reserve3 ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/sdb3 /suse112 ext4 defaults 1 2 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_SV0412H_0626J1FW314667-part7 /suselxde ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST320413A_7ED1TGXF-part5 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST320413A_7ED1TGXF-part1 /DrDos2 vfat users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST320413A_7ED1TGXF-part6 /xtra1 ext3 defaults 1 2 Grub.conf __________ setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 --force-lba (hd0) (hd1,0) quit menu.lst __________ # Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Sat Jun 26 21:53:47 WIT 2010 # THIS FILE WILL BE PARTIALLY OVERWRITTEN by perl-Bootloader # Configure custom boot parameters for updated kernels in /etc/sysconfig/bootloader default 0 timeout 8 gfxmenu (hd1,0)/boot/message ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux### title openSUSE 11.3 RC 1 - 2.6.34-9 root (hd1,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.34-9-default root=/dev/disk/by-id/ata- SAMSUNG_SV0412H_0626J1FW314667-part1 resume=/dev/disk/by-id/ata- SAMSUNG_SV0412H_0626J1FW314667-part5 splash=silent quiet showopts vga=0x31a initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.34-9-default ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: failsafe### title Failsafe -- openSUSE 11.3 RC 1 - 2.6.34-9 root (hd1,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.34-9-default root=/dev/disk/by-id/ata- SAMSUNG_SV0412H_0626J1FW314667-part1 showopts apm=off noresume nosmp maxcpus=0 edd=off powersaved=off nohz=off highres=off processor.max_cstate=1 nomodeset x11failsafe vga=0x31a initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.34-9-default ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: Desktop -- openSUSE 11.2 - 2.6.31.12-0.2 (/dev/sdb3)### title Desktop -- openSUSE 11.2 - 2.6.31.12-0.2 (/dev/sdb3) root (hd1,2) configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: windows### title DrDos rootnoverify (hd0,0) chainloader +1 ============================ And this is the output from fdisk. =========================== fdisk -l __________ Disk /dev/sdb: 40.1 GB, 40060403712 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4870 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x5a375a37 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 * 1 786 6305512 83 Linux Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sdb2 1624 4870 26081527+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sdb3 * 786 1623 6731204 83 Linux /dev/sdb5 1624 1701 626503+ 82 Linux swap/Solaris /dev/sdb6 2981 4870 15181393+ 83 Linux /dev/sdb7 2293 2980 5526328+ 83 Linux /dev/sdb8 1702 2158 3670821 83 Linux /dev/sdb9 2172 2292 971901 83 Linux Partition table entries are not in disk order Disk /dev/sda: 4327 MB, 4327464960 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 526 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x000e13f9 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 40 313267 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sda2 * 41 526 3903795 83 Linux Disk /dev/sdc: 20.0 GB, 20020396032 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2434 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00028337 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdc1 * 1 654 5245222 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sdc2 * 654 2434 14305851+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sdc5 812 871 481950 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sdc6 872 1524 5245191 83 Linux /dev/sdc7 1525 2434 7309543+ 83 Linux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday, June 27, 2010 08:23:07 pm Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:

On 06/27/2010 08:53 AM, C. Brouerius van Nidek pecked at the keyboard

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On Sunday, June 27, 2010 12:58:48 pm Felix Miata wrote:

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On 2010/06/27 12:36 (GMT+0700) C. Brouerius van Nidek composed:

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After some technical problems with my Pentium III mainboard I ran

snip

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Got it working but I am still not able to repair my 11.2. The information very early after the boot of grub is more or less, could not find /dev/sdb3

snip

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I have checked the partition (ext4) with fsck, looked at the partition with Yast but was not able to see anything out of the ordinary. Can somebody give me a solution?

Not without more information.

snip As far as I can see, the drive is still recognised as sdb3 in my new setup. I have compared the two sets of data and do not see a problem.

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Here follows the information I gathered: <big snip>

If the info is from the 11.3 system you installed it is almost useless for 11.2. Things can change from one version to the next. Can you boot from 11.2 install media and instead of installing boot the installed 11.2 version?

My DVD reader has a problem. It does not read my 11.2 install disk. Thought to burn a 11.2 life CD but the cd rom is not found by K3B. If I put a cd in the cd rw rom the message that a cd was inserted pops up. But K3B does not see it. I am running in circles but anyhow, I am glad I got 11.3RC1 via the network. -- Linux User 183145 using LXDE on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 11.3 RC 1 (i586) Kernel: 2.6.34-9-default LXDE WM & KDE Development Platform: 4.4.3 (KDE 4.4.3) 20:58pm up 5:46, 3 users, load average: 0.13, 0.72, 0.76 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday, June 27, 2010 09:48:51 pm Philipp Thomas wrote:

On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 21:06:42 +0700, "C. Brouerius van Nidek"

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My DVD reader has a problem. It does not read my 11.2 install disk.

Why not create a 11.2 netinstall disk and boot the rescue system from that?

Dear Philipp, You are right. Could have thought myself about that solution -- Linux User 183145 using LXDE on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 11.3 RC 1 (i586) Kernel: 2.6.34-9-default LXDE WM & KDE Development Platform: 4.4.3 (KDE 4.4.3) 22:40pm up 0:57, 1 user, load average: 0.41, 0.26, 0.10 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2010-06-27 16:46, Philipp Thomas wrote:

On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 09:23:07 -0400, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:

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If the info is from the 11.3 system you installed it is almost useless for 11.2.

No it's not that useless. For instance as his setup uses /dev/disk/by-id, the device symlinks should be the same as we try to make shure that they do.

Yep. He could try to boot 11.3, and there chroot the old 11.2, in order to reinstall grub. I'm not sure exactly how, but I would first try YaST (11.2 yast). - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREIAAYFAkwngesACgkQja8UbcUWM1yT3wD/QE01vRkHDXnj6oQAChJnjnlY 45FoLmFebU/fJZMRot8A/i6LBPgkTxkcidl+CKopng0pXlv8CLUWwhEdoqWOP7ft =m6EO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Monday, June 28, 2010 08:16:20 am Philipp Thomas wrote:

On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 18:52:59 +0200, "Carlos E. R."

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He could try to boot 11.3, and there chroot the old 11.2, in order to reinstall grub.

Should work too. The only thing ncessary would be to bind mount /proc, /dev and /sys into the chroot.

Philipp

Thanks for the suggestions. First I have to study chroot because that is a command I am not familiar with. Instructions are of course welcome in the period of studying chroot ;) -- Linux User 183145 using LXDE on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 11.3 RC 1 (i586) Kernel: 2.6.34-9-default LXDE WM & KDE Development Platform: 4.4.3 (KDE 4.4.3) 09:06am up 11:24, 2 users, load average: 0.07, 0.12, 0.18 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Monday, June 28, 2010 09:24:20 am Philipp Thomas wrote:

On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:12:53 +0700, "C. Brouerius van Nidek"

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First I have to study chroot because that is a command I am not familiar with.

Assuming the following layout:

/dev/sdb1 -> 11.2 /boot /dev/sdb2 -> 11.2 /

You do:

mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/boot mount -bind /dev /mnt/dev mount -bind /proc /mnt/proc mount -bind /sys /mnt/sys

Now you do 'chroot /mnt'

Philipp, Thanks. In my case I do not have a special /boot partition. And with mount -bind /dev /mnt/dev it informs me: # mount -bind /dev /mnt/dev mount: invalid option -- 'b' Usage: mount -V : print version mount -h : print this help mount : list mounted filesystems mount -l : idem, including volume labels So far the informational part. Next the mounting. The command is `mount [-t fstype] something somewhere'. Details found in /etc/fstab may be omitted. mount -a [-t|-O] ... : mount all stuff from /etc/fstab mount device : mount device at the known place mount directory : mount known device here mount -t type dev dir : ordinary mount command Note that one does not really mount a device, one mounts a filesystem (of the given type) found on the device. One can also mount an already visible directory tree elsewhere: mount --bind olddir newdir or move a subtree: mount --move olddir newdir One can change the type of mount containing the directory dir: mount --make-shared dir mount --make-slave dir mount --make-private dir mount --make-unbindable dir One can change the type of all the mounts in a mount subtree containing the directory dir: mount --make-rshared dir mount --make-rslave dir mount --make-rprivate dir mount --make-runbindable dir A device can be given by name, say /dev/hda1 or /dev/cdrom, or by label, using -L label or by uuid, using -U uuid . Other options: [-nfFrsvw] [-o options] [-p passwdfd]. For many more details, say man 8 mount Another question. Should I not change into the /mnt after it is mounted as /dev/sdb3 ? Could imagine that otherwise the mount ???? would try to -bind the /boot /dev /proc and /sys from my 11.3 system. As -bind does not seems to be recognized, is there another command which would do the trick? -- Linux User 183145 using LXDE on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 11.3 RC 1 (i586) Kernel: 2.6.34-9-default LXDE WM & KDE Development Platform: 4.4.3 (KDE 4.4.3) 10:07am up 12:25, 3 users, load average: 0.23, 0.09, 0.03 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 2010/06/28 04:24 (GMT+0200) Philipp Thomas composed:

C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:

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First I have to study chroot because that is a command I am not familiar with.

Assuming the following layout:

/dev/sdb1 -> 11.2 /boot /dev/sdb2 -> 11.2 /

You do:

mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/boot mount -bind /dev /mnt/dev mount -bind /proc /mnt/proc mount -bind /sys /mnt/sys

Apparently different from once upon a time: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-01/msg02708.html

Now you do 'chroot /mnt' -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2010-06-28 07:00, C. Brouerius van Nidek wrote:

Seems the problem lies in the fact that with the installation of 11.2 I accepted the proposal to use Ext4. I have edited the boot sequence for the /dev/sdb3 by hand and when I start Grub I get the following interesting information:

/dev/sdb3 fsck succeeded. Mounting root device read write Mounting root /dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG-SV.......-part3 [6.485065] EXT3 -fs (sdb3):error: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (240) mount:wrong fs type, bad option etc. etc.

How can I instruct grub that this partition is an EXT4 partition. When, what and where should guide grub to know it is NOT an ext3 partition?

That's not grub, that's either fstab or initrd. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREIAAYFAkwo4S0ACgkQja8UbcUWM1yV8gD8CvJtO1RypD70iZ2oSENvYg56 0T5I0PLk3OEWtHwMUQUA/0GO9zn4Su6YRndlz//4pUcbPXovDWXTXf2CogUI1tcU =Mzq6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org