Re: [SLE] Microsoft sings a new tune on Linux
No, I still think they dont
As the article says, they see Linux as a gigantic cloud of enemies
AIMING THEM and making a world big conspiration to destroy MS, but as a
long-time linux user, i dont see a enemy in MS at all (or a reason for MS
to think of Linux as a threat), in fact, both technologies can now be
deployed quite well getting all the advantages and benefits of both
systems... obviously, _that _is_ a threat to Microsoft in terms of '$', but
im telling you, if MS should win this 'battle', linux will still be there,
making techies happy.... Now, if are there users and enterprises that
preferred Linux, is just because MS doesnt fill their expectations (price,
hw requirements, etc). Besides, enterprises want to be free from being
locked-in with a provider, and as there are no other windows-compatible
operating source...(you can move from one linux distro/provider to another
with no problem)
Remember the whole objective linux had since its beginning, was only
to be a techie toy, open for everyone who wants to play with it (even
ballmer can). Then, whether or not, if MS 'win' this 'battle' linux will
STILL be there getting better and better.
On the other hand, for the consumer, it will be a benefit, because as
linux can not be destroyed for means of buying certain company (as MS has
done through the years), there is NO WAY OUT for MS other than making an
EVEN BETTER product (i mean, not just better colors or desktop), the only
way to really BEAT linux is just making an exeptionally good product out of
Windows, they need to make a so good product, as to convince us to prefer.
And the formula is quite simple, MS has followed the way of the multimedia
for too many years, mutlimedia that bothers more than help do the job. So
many fisher-price-like-multimedia-desktop-colors-and-enviroments in windows
only make us think there is no more to 'innovate'...But linux is still
virus-free and BSOD-free. what do you prefer?
Tom Nielsen
Ballmer and Taylor are really sick, and have none knowledge about the open source or linux philosophy, seeing linux as a rival who is trying to beat them... poor guys
With all due respect, I think it's quite the opposite. I think they know very, very well about opensource and the Linux philosophy....and that's why they speak so very badly about it...they know this is the only thing in the world right now that can have an impact on their revenue. Guys in their positions NEED to know everything they can about their competition so that they can "crush" it. It's all just negative marketing....an attempt to get the fence-sitters from jumping over to Linux. If I didn't know that much about Linux (and I really don't) and my job depended on hundreds of people working as efficiently as possible, I would surely go with MS. If, or when, something goes fubar, I can always tell my CIO "hey, it's Microsoft...what else can I do?" These statements and stories are enough to get someone to stay where they are. -- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 1.805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 14:27:58 -0300 LRivas@oxiquim.cl wrote:
As the article says, they see Linux as a gigantic cloud of enemies AIMING THEM and making a world big conspiration to destroy MS
That is their paranoid view, but some members of the OpenSource movement
see Microsoft as the Great Devil. While I don't see this from many of my
fellow Unix/Linux community, I can tell you that Eric Raymond has been
very vocal about this.
--
Jerry Feldman
On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 20:17, Jerry Feldman wrote:
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 14:27:58 -0300 LRivas@oxiquim.cl wrote:
As the article says, they see Linux as a gigantic cloud of enemies AIMING THEM and making a world big conspiration to destroy MS
That is their paranoid view, but some members of the OpenSource movement see Microsoft as the Great Devil. While I don't see this from many of my fellow Unix/Linux community, I can tell you that Eric Raymond has been very vocal about this. A study showed most Open sourcers to be profesionals working on thier free time. It also showed they wheren't anti microsoft in any respect...
Chalk this one onto fud... Jerry
On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 20:17, Jerry Feldman wrote:
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 14:27:58 -0300
LRivas@oxiquim.cl wrote:
As the article says, they see Linux as a gigantic cloud of enemies AIMING THEM and making a world big conspiration to destroy MS
That is their paranoid view, but some members of the OpenSource movement see Microsoft as the Great Devil. While I don't see this from many of my fellow Unix/Linux community, I can tell you that Eric Raymond has been very vocal about this.
A study showed most Open sourcers to be profesionals working on thier free time. It also showed they wheren't anti microsoft in any respect...
Chalk this one onto fud... Jerry FTR, I'm not anti-M$, either (despite depicting them as M$ <G>), I just finally got weary of the security concerns, the blue screens of death --even on XP Pro & Home (2 different boxes), and finally the inablilty to create the optimum e-mail filters I desired. I still keep the XP Pro box around for
On Tuesday 10 August 2004 13:39, Jerome R. Westrick wrote: those jobs I haven't yet learned to do on SuSE 9 Pro ...or those that I cannot find software to handle on Linux. -- ..."Yogi" CH Namaste Yoga Studio
On Tuesday 10 August 2004 12:16 pm, C Hamel wrote:
I still keep the XP Pro box around for those jobs I haven't yet learned to do on SuSE 9 Pro ...or those that I cannot find software to handle on Linux. Same here. I have XP on my kvm for the same reason. I go to it once or twice a day....if that.
A couple weeks ago I got really frustrated trying to change a folder on XP so that a user could access a program under user mode rather than needing to be under admin. It would have been soooo much easier under Linux. -- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 1.805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com
On Tuesday August 10 2004 2:17 pm, Jerry Feldman wrote:
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 14:27:58 -0300
LRivas@oxiquim.cl wrote:
As the article says, they see Linux as a gigantic cloud of enemies AIMING THEM and making a world big conspiration to destroy MS
That is their paranoid view, but some members of the OpenSource movement see Microsoft as the Great Devil. While I don't see this from many of my fellow Unix/Linux community, I can tell you that Eric Raymond has been very vocal about this.
I have moral issues with Gates and Co., which I WON'T compromise. Fred -- "Running Windows on a Pentium is like getting a Porsche but only being able to drive it in reverse with the handbrake on."
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