Hi. Due to spam, I have changed my email on the server that hosts my domain. Its not here, but many miles away. But even if I have done that I still get mails sent to my @domain.dk. I tried a random name in the front of the @domain.dk, and it arrived here. I use SuSE 8.1 and sendmail. How can I get rid of that ?. -- Med venlig hilsen - Best regards. Erik Jakobsen - eja@urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 - http://counter.li.org SuSE Linux 8.1
On Friday 20 December 2002 6:21 am, Erik Jakobsen wrote:
Hi.
Due to spam, I have changed my email on the server that hosts my domain. Its not here, but many miles away.
unwanted (spam) is, rather unfortunately, becoming a way of life here on the net -- best advice (at the moment) is "just ignore it [if you can -- if you can't, get spamassassin...]" I and many others are working on ways to reduce and/or eliminate spam -- one day the internet will be a better place after all... :)
But even if I have done that I still get mails sent to my @domain.dk.
I'm not sure what you're saying/implying here -- what exactly do you mean by "changed my email on the server that hosts my domain"? I'm guessing here, but that could be a few possibilities: 1) you changed the "administrative contact" for the DNS record -- this information is "public knowledge", so anyone who regularly scans whois/dig output would get your new address instantly 2) you changed the address of a "webmaster" contact on a page within your "website" -- congratulations, you are getting mail at that new address -- again, this is "publicly displayed/available" information [in other words, people are reading & using that new address and it works] 3) you changed a name "internally" with the hosting service so that they can continue to reach you "here" -- two possibilities: -- they used this is a forwarding address for information going to the "old" address [not what you intended -- a talk with a live human at their site might clear this up] -- they published this information [sold it directly to a spammer] 4) changing a name doesn't neccessarilly "remove" the old name at your local ISP -- when you say "I still get mails sent to my @domain", what address are people using [the new one or the old one?]
I tried a random name in the front of the @domain.dk, and it arrived here.
this may be because you are the "postmaster" of "domain" -- any "incorrectly" addressed mail [can] be forwarded to a catch-all address, usually postmaster, and postmaster in turn tends to be forwarded to a "real" address [yours] This is it what it sounds like has happened from the description so far...
I use SuSE 8.1 and sendmail.
How can I get rid of that ?.
if that last item is the winner, change the "default" recipient [catch-all, or whatever you want to call it] and actually create another "account" for that recipient rather than forward it to root/postmaster/yourself -- periodically check that address's mailbox for messages [and throw them away...] You'll find that "spammers" may try the "shotgun" approach -- my address is "osnut" at pacbell, I've never used "osnut" with any other service provider, but because "osnut" is indeed a legit address "somewhere", I'm sure spammers have tried "osnut@earthlink", "osnut@aol", "osnut@msn"... and so on... [this is a way some spam-promotors sell lists of "millions" of addresses -- they harvest 10,000 users from 10 ISP/domains and cross-complete each set of names with the other ISP domains...]
Tom Emerson wrote:
On Friday 20 December 2002 6:21 am, Erik Jakobsen wrote:
Hi.
Due to spam, I have changed my email on the server that hosts my domain. Its not here, but many miles away.
unwanted (spam) is, rather unfortunately, becoming a way of life here on the net -- best advice (at the moment) is "just ignore it [if you can -- if you can't, get spamassassin...]" I and many others are working on ways > to reduce and/or eliminate spam -- one day the internet will be a better place after all... :)
I have recently decided to reverse spam the spam emailer with a anti spam email note. This was due to my receiving "hinet.net" spam about 20 time a week (stopped and banned). I will include a copy of the template letter. I used "whois" and returned the email to every spammer email and innocent email partiy involved. I have saved a copy of all emailspam. However, my spam has just about stopped and has caused various emailers to blacklist ban certain spammers and open relay sites. Me efforts maybe even makes open relay sites wake up. *** BECOME Active not Passive and help solve the spam problem. *** Copy of spamdoc.txt (who cares if it is legal or can be enforced) _________________________________________________________________________ NOTICE TO UNSOLICITED SPAMMERS !!! Pursuant to U.S. Code, title 47,Chapter 5, Subchapter II, "Any and all unsolicited E-mail (SPAM) sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee of 500 U.S dollars." NOTE!! Your email to this E-mail denotes acceptance of these terms. Your message (if actually mailed) is in violation of the Federal Telephone Consumer Protection Act of 1991, and Collateral Code of Federal Regulations(47 CFR 64.1200). The TCPA allows a private right of action against the sender of unsolicited advertising. The recipient can sue for $500, or actual damages (which ever is greater). REMOVE UNSUBCRIBE myemail@myisp.org otheremail@otherisp.net Please note that I will request a Blacklist server to list all of the above if this "UNSOLICITED SPAMMER" is not banned. All spam is being saved complete with header information for future filing. Check for the requirement to be listed at: "http://mail-abuse.org/rbl/reporting.html" Shown below is a copy of the saved email header that applies ________________________________________________________________ (Header info goes here showing all parties and dates) ________________________________________________________________ Please Note a copy of the unsolicited email is being sent to spam@pldaniels.com "http://pldaniels.com/inflex/" END_______________________________________________________________________ -- 73 de Donn Washburn __ " http://www.hal-pc.org/~dwash " Ham Callsign N5XWB / / __ __ __ __ __ __ __ 307 Savoy St. / /__ / / / \/ / / /_/ / \ \/ / Sugar Land, TX 77478 /_____/ /_/ /_/\__/ /_____/ /_/\_\ LL# 1.281.242.3256 a MSDOS Virus "Free Zone" OS Email: n5xwb@arrl.net Info: http://www.austinlug.org
On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 14:38:53 -0600
Donn aka N5XWB
Tom Emerson wrote:
On Friday 20 December 2002 6:21 am, Erik Jakobsen wrote:
Hi.
Due to spam, I have changed my email on the server that hosts my domain. Its not here, but many miles away.
unwanted (spam) is, rather unfortunately, becoming a way of life here on the net -- best advice (at the moment) is "just ignore it [if you can -- if you can't, get spamassassin...]" I and many others are working on ways > to reduce and/or eliminate spam -- one day the internet will be a better place after all... :)
I have recently decided to reverse spam the spam emailer with a anti spam email note. This was due to my receiving "hinet.net" spam about 20 time a week (stopped and banned). I will include a copy of the template letter. I used "whois" and returned the email to every spammer email and innocent email partiy involved. I have saved a copy of all emailspam.
Would be nice to have a look on how you did that.
However, my spam has just about stopped and has caused various emailers to blacklist ban certain spammers and open relay sites. Me efforts maybe even makes open relay sites wake up.
*** BECOME Active not Passive and help solve the spam problem. ***
Copy of spamdoc.txt (who cares if it is legal or can be enforced)
Would be nice to see that file.
_________________________________________________________________________ NOTICE TO UNSOLICITED SPAMMERS !!! Pursuant to U.S. Code, title 47,Chapter 5, Subchapter II,
"Any and all unsolicited E-mail (SPAM) sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee of 500 U.S dollars."
NOTE!! Your email to this E-mail denotes acceptance of these terms. Your message (if actually mailed) is in violation of the Federal Telephone Consumer Protection Act of 1991, and Collateral Code of Federal Regulations(47 CFR 64.1200). The TCPA allows a private right of action against the sender of unsolicited advertising. The recipient can sue for $500, or actual damages (which ever is greater).
REMOVE UNSUBCRIBE myemail@myisp.org otheremail@otherisp.net
Please note that I will request a Blacklist server to list all of the above if this "UNSOLICITED SPAMMER" is not banned. All spam is being saved complete with header information for future filing.
Check for the requirement to be listed at:
"http://mail-abuse.org/rbl/reporting.html"
Shown below is a copy of the saved email header that applies ________________________________________________________________
(Header info goes here showing all parties and dates) ________________________________________________________________
Please Note a copy of the unsolicited email is being sent to spam@pldaniels.com "http://pldaniels.com/inflex/"
END_______________________________________________________________________ -- 73 de Donn Washburn __ " http://www.hal-pc.org/~dwash " Ham Callsign N5XWB / / __ __ __ __ __ __ __ 307 Savoy St. / /__ / / / \/ / / /_/ / \ \/ / Sugar Land, TX 77478 /_____/ /_/ /_/\__/ /_____/ /_/\_\ LL# 1.281.242.3256 a MSDOS Virus "Free Zone" OS Email: n5xwb@arrl.net Info: http://www.austinlug.org
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On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 12:07:54 -0800
Tom Emerson
On Friday 20 December 2002 6:21 am, Erik Jakobsen wrote:
Hi.
Due to spam, I have changed my email on the server that hosts my domain. Its not here, but many miles away.
unwanted (spam) is, rather unfortunately, becoming a way of life here on the net -- best advice (at the moment) is "just ignore it [if you can -- if you can't, get spamassassin...]" I and many others are working on ways to reduce and/or eliminate spam -- one day the internet will be a better place after all... :)
You are right.
But even if I have done that I still get mails sent to my @domain.dk.
I'm not sure what you're saying/implying here -- what exactly do you mean by "changed my email on the server that hosts my domain"? I'm guessing here, but that could be a few possibilities:
Well I can call my domain server by remote from here. Then I can administrate my accounts -Put a new account, delete an account and so on-.
1) you changed the "administrative contact" for the DNS record -- this information is "public knowledge", so anyone who regularly scans whois/dig output would get your new address instantly
I can see your point.
2) you changed the address of a "webmaster" contact on a page within your "website" -- congratulations, you are getting mail at that new address -- again, this is "publicly displayed/available" information [in other words, people are reading & using that new address and it works]
Yes :-(
3) you changed a name "internally" with the hosting service so that they can continue to reach you "here" -- two possibilities: -- they used this is a forwarding address for information going to the "old" address [not what you intended -- a talk with a live human at their site might clear this up] -- they published this information [sold it directly to a spammer]
4) changing a name doesn't neccessarilly "remove" the old name at your local ISP -- when you say "I still get mails sent to my @domain", what address are people using [the new one or the old one?]
The domain name is the same, but if you just write a mail 12344eee@domain.dk, it arrives here. The whole effort was not of ANY value :-(
I tried a random name in the front of the @domain.dk, and it arrived here.
this may be because you are the "postmaster" of "domain" -- any "incorrectly" addressed mail [can] be forwarded to a catch-all address, usually postmaster, and postmaster in turn tends to be forwarded to a "real" address [yours] This is it what it sounds like has happened from the description so far...
Yes right I'm the postmaster.
I use SuSE 8.1 and sendmail.
How can I get rid of that ?.
if that last item is the winner, change the "default" recipient [catch-all, or whatever you want to call it] and actually create another "account" for that recipient rather than forward it to root/postmaster/yourself -- periodically check that address's mailbox for messages [and throw them away...] You'll find that "spammers" may try the "shotgun" approach -- my address is "osnut" at pacbell, I've never used "osnut" with any other service provider, but because "osnut" is indeed a legit address "somewhere", I'm sure spammers have tried "osnut@earthlink", "osnut@aol", "osnut@msn"... and so on... [this is a way some spam-promotors sell lists of "millions" of addresses -- they harvest 10,000 users from 10 ISP/domains and cross-complete each set of names with the other ISP domains...]
Ok will have a more carefull look at what you write.
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Donn aka N5XWB
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Erik Jakobsen
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Tom Emerson