I have installed the updated kernel for SuSE 8.0 and am still unable to get the Zaurus PDA to sync with Qtopia 1.6. I am using usb to sync. Has anyone successfully done this? Thanks so much, Scott
On Tuesday 03 September 2002 12:22 am, Scott Oakes wrote:
I have installed the updated kernel for SuSE 8.0 and am still unable to get the Zaurus PDA to sync with Qtopia 1.6. I am using usb to sync. Has anyone successfully done this?
By "updated kernel" I presume you mean the steps in the SDB article: http://sdb.suselinux.hu/en/sdb/html/jreuter_zaurus_usb.html This boils down the howto in: http://www.ruault.com/Zaurus/ethernet-over-usb-howto.html into a very easy-to-follow set of steps to take with SuSE 8.0. Given that this was put up in June, I'm really impressed with SuSE being so far ahead of the game. The only thing to check before following the article is that /usr/src/linux is linked to linux2.4.18-SuSE, and NOT 2.4.18 (dumbo here spent a good while wondering why I got a kernel-version mismatch message, since I haven't really messed with patches/kernel before). Once the usbdnet.o module is compiled, and you have copied it to the right place, set up the IP address for the new usb0 interface as 192.168.129.200 (the Zaurus is by default 192.168.129.201). Put the Z in the cradle, and turn it on, and then plug the USB cradle in - you should hear at least one beep. Try pinging from the desktop PC to the Z, and then open a terminal on the Z and ping the PC (hint: to get Control-C without having access to the keyboard, use the UNI(code) virtual keyboard on the Z, and click the 4th square in from the top left corner). If this doesn't work, there is a basic connectivity problem that needs to be addressed: module not properly compiled, module not loading in response to hotplug (use lsmod to check it is loaded - if not, do modprobe usbdnet or insmod usbdnet to see what messages that gives you), IP addresses not properly assigned (use ifconfig -a to check). If you can ping OK, open the QTopia Desktop - like you, I used the 1.6.0beta1. Under File > Settings > General, tick USB, and check that 192.168.129.201 is entered as the PDA IP Address. Note that there seems to be a little bugette with this - if, out of curiosity, you tick the serial box, which is set to 192.168.130.101, that seems to reset the USB entry to that too, and changing the serial entry doesn't seem to "take". So, change the USB entry, and then click OK straight away. That was all I had to do to get it to work. The only issue I have found is that entries on the desktop calendar get postponed by one hour when they are synced to the Z (ie a 9.00 meeting gets listed as being at 10.00). I suspect this is something to do with summer time, but if anyone has any suggestions I'd be happy to hear them. It should be said that the QTopia Desktop has not received rave reviews, but I'm willing to put up with it, since I don't use Outlook anyway. It would have been nice if they had included an FTP app in the package, since that would have simplified file transfer. If you want a slightly more powerful PIM engine, you should probably check out theKompany.com's range of Z stuff. This is very good, and under heavy development, but it is not GPL, and it costs money. They do a very nice editor and FTP client, and their tkcPlayer app makes the Z the first portable Ogg player (on Sunday I was lounging on the beach in the sun - pretty rare in Wales - soaking up the rays and listening to some favourite tracks - I felt very smug). They also do a complete replacement set of PIM stuff, and this is slated to work with Outlook (for Windows users) and Aethera (their own app for Linux users). They will not be supporting Evolution, but there is a perl script somewhere that syncs at least some of Evolution, so it may not be long before someone sorts that out. The Z is by no means perfect, but it is the first PDA I've ever bought, and I'm pretty impressed with what it can do. There is a bit of a learning curve, though, partly because of the hardware limitations, partly because of design decisions by Sharp (eg to use usbdnet instead of usbnet, and the ridiculous amount of symlinking in the filetree - I'm still trying to map it out) - vist www.zauruszone.com to imbibe knowledge from their forums. But it is actually quite powerful - if I'd wanted to, I could also have been editing a PHP/MySQL website on the beach! Best wishes Kevin
On Tue, 2002-09-03 at 05:57, Kevin Donnelly wrote:
On Tuesday 03 September 2002 12:22 am, Scott Oakes wrote:
I have installed the updated kernel for SuSE 8.0 and am still unable to get the Zaurus PDA to sync with Qtopia 1.6. I am using usb to sync. Has anyone successfully done this?
By "updated kernel" I presume you mean the steps in the SDB article: http://sdb.suselinux.hu/en/sdb/html/jreuter_zaurus_usb.html This boils down the howto in: http://www.ruault.com/Zaurus/ethernet-over-usb-howto.html into a very easy-to-follow set of steps to take with SuSE 8.0. Given that this was put up in June, I'm really impressed with SuSE being so far ahead of the game.
The only thing to check before following the article is that /usr/src/linux is linked to linux2.4.18-SuSE, and NOT 2.4.18 (dumbo here spent a good while wondering why I got a kernel-version mismatch message, since I haven't really messed with patches/kernel before).
Once the usbdnet.o module is compiled, and you have copied it to the right place, set up the IP address for the new usb0 interface as 192.168.129.200 (the Zaurus is by default 192.168.129.201). Put the Z in the cradle, and turn it on, and then plug the USB cradle in - you should hear at least one beep.
Compiling just the usbdnet module was one of two methods described in the SDB article (and the one I used). The other was to install the Mantel 2.4.19 kernel which includes the usbdnet module. I have heard from other users that the 2.4.19 kernel works as well. I read on a web board at zauruszone.com that you should do a soft power off between syncs in the cradle for some reason. Another odd bit of behavior I've noticed is that if I have the Qtopia desktop open, then insert the Z in the cradle that the Qtopia desktop will go to 99% CPU utilization while it does the initial handshaking stuff. It stays that way for about 60 seconds, then goes back to normal CPU usage. At first, I thought this was some kind of looping bug in Qtopia, but now I think it is due to the large number of small files I have installed on the SD card.
It should be said that the QTopia Desktop has not received rave reviews, but I'm willing to put up with it, since I don't use Outlook anyway. It would have been nice if they had included an FTP app in the package, since that would have simplified file transfer.
Yet another small bug I've seen is that uncategorized contacts don't show up in Qtopia desktop. I could see them on the Z and had to assign a category there. Once they have a category, they show up on the Qtopia desktop. Despite the small bugs, I like the Qtopia desktop. It is small and fast and does the basics fairly well. Best Regards, Keith -- LPIC-2, MCSE, N+ Right behind you, I see the millions Got spam? Get spastic http://spastic.sourceforge.net
Hi! After I installed ncurese.devel, I have been able to go a bit further. Now, I'm stuck in: make dep modules After some long compilation I got following messages: <quote> sysinfo.c:11: linux/compile.h: No such file or directory sysinfo.c: In function `svr4_sysinfo': sysinfo.c:85: `UTS_VERSION' undeclared (first use in this function) sysinfo.c:85: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once sysinfo.c:85: for each function it appears in.) make[2]: *** [sysinfo.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.18.SuSE/abi/svr4' make[1]: *** [_modsubdir_svr4] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.18.SuSE/abi' make: *** [_mod_abi] Error 2 <unquote> Any idea? TIA -- Lao Toma Linux user #282453
Hi! I'm stuck in: make dep modules After some long compilation I got following messages: <quote> sysinfo.c:11: linux/compile.h: No such file or directory sysinfo.c: In function `svr4_sysinfo': sysinfo.c:85: `UTS_VERSION' undeclared (first use in this function) sysinfo.c:85: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once sysinfo.c:85: for each function it appears in.) make[2]: *** [sysinfo.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.18.SuSE/abi/svr4' make[1]: *** [_modsubdir_svr4] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.18.SuSE/abi' make: *** [_mod_abi] Error 2 <unquote> Any idea? TIA -- Lao Toma Linux user #282453
Lao Toma
I'm stuck in: make dep modules
Please do not use reply if all you want is pick up the address. If you do so, your mail will get part of the thread even if you change the subject. Your mail now appears in a thread with the subject "Zaurus 5500" where it just doesn't belong and will either be deleted (what I mostly do) or just overlooked by someone who isn't interested in the original subject. Philipp -- Philipp Thomas work: pthomas@suse.de Development SuSE Linux AG private: pth@t-link.de
On Wednesday 04 September 2002 9:56 pm, Philipp Thomas wrote:
Your mail now appears in a thread with the subject "Zaurus 5500"
Yes, he's trying to follow the instructions in J Reiter's SDB article for compiling usbdnet as a module, so that the Zaurus can be synced with Qtopia Desktop running on a SuSE PC. Best wishes Kevin
On Wednesday 04 September 2002 6:58 am, Lao Toma wrote:
<quote> sysinfo.c:11: linux/compile.h: No such file or directory sysinfo.c: In function `svr4_sysinfo': sysinfo.c:85: `UTS_VERSION' undeclared (first use in this function) sysinfo.c:85: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once sysinfo.c:85: for each function it appears in.) make[2]: *** [sysinfo.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.18.SuSE/abi/svr4' make[1]: *** [_modsubdir_svr4] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.18.SuSE/abi' make: *** [_mod_abi] Error 2 <unquote>
I have these directories (/abi and /abi/svr4). Are you sure that you have all the kernel source packages installed? There are two of them - linux, and kernel-source. You need to have both of them installed. HTH Kevin
Hi!
Yes, I've got both of them, and I have the two directories.
The trouble seems to be with 'sysinfo.c' in directory
`/usr/src/linux-2.4.18.SuSE/abi/svr4'
On line 11, the '#include
On Wednesday 04 September 2002 6:58 am, Lao Toma wrote:
<quote> sysinfo.c:11: linux/compile.h: No such file or directory sysinfo.c: In function `svr4_sysinfo': sysinfo.c:85: `UTS_VERSION' undeclared (first use in this function) sysinfo.c:85: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once sysinfo.c:85: for each function it appears in.) make[2]: *** [sysinfo.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.18.SuSE/abi/svr4' make[1]: *** [_modsubdir_svr4] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.18.SuSE/abi' make: *** [_mod_abi] Error 2 <unquote>
I have these directories (/abi and /abi/svr4). Are you sure that you have all the kernel source packages installed? There are two of them - linux, and kernel-source. You need to have both of them installed.
HTH
Kevin
-- Lao Toma Linux user #282453
Hi! Whilst doing a "make dep modules" to get networking through USB for my Zaurus, I got following error message:
<quote> sysinfo.c:11: linux/compile.h: No such file or directory sysinfo.c: In function `svr4_sysinfo': sysinfo.c:85: `UTS_VERSION' undeclared (first use in this function) sysinfo.c:85: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once sysinfo.c:85: for each function it appears in.) make[2]: *** [sysinfo.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.18.SuSE/abi/svr4' make[1]: *** [_modsubdir_svr4] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.18.SuSE/abi' make: *** [_mod_abi] Error 2 <unquote>
I've checked for "compile.h" with find / -name 'compile.h -print but could not find it anywhere on my box. Why is it missing and where can I get a proper copy? TIA -- Lao Toma Linux user #282453
On Sat, 7 Sep 2002 03:29:31 +0100
Lao Toma
Hi!
Whilst doing a "make dep modules" to get networking through USB for my Zaurus, I got following error message:
I've checked for "compile.h" with
Look in /usr/include/linux, that's where mine is. -- use Perl; #powerful programmable prestidigitation
Nobody's got a glue??? On Saturday September 7 2002 03:29, Lao Toma wrote about "[SLE] sysinfo.c : missing "compile.h" file":
Hi!
Whilst doing a "make dep modules" to get networking through USB for my Zaurus,
I got following error message:
<quote> sysinfo.c:11: linux/compile.h: No such file or directory sysinfo.c: In function `svr4_sysinfo': sysinfo.c:85: `UTS_VERSION' undeclared (first use in this function) sysinfo.c:85: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once sysinfo.c:85: for each function it appears in.) make[2]: *** [sysinfo.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.18.SuSE/abi/svr4' make[1]: *** [_modsubdir_svr4] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.18.SuSE/abi' make: *** [_mod_abi] Error 2
<unquote>
I've checked for "compile.h" with
find / -name 'compile.h' -print
but could not find it anywhere on my box.
Why is it missing and where can I get a proper copy?
TIA -- Lao Toma Linux user #282453
On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 00:09:05 +0100
Lao Toma
Nobody's got a glue???
Sorry , all sniffed out. :-)
On Saturday September 7 2002 03:29, Lao Toma wrote about "[SLE] sysinfo.c : missing "compile.h" file":
Hi!
I've checked for "compile.h" with
find / -name 'compile.h' -print
but could not find it anywhere on my box.
Why is it missing and where can I get a proper copy?
It's missing because you didn't install it. :-) On my 7.2 system, compile.h is part of the python-devel.rpm. You really should get a copy of the ARCHIVES file for your suse version, and learn to search it. It contains a list of all files, and which rpms they are in. -- use Perl; #powerful programmable prestidigitation
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