Hi, an alternative product that I have installed wuthout any problem on SuSE is Win4Lin. You can find some description on my Web site http://www.wisepenguin.com/index2_4.php The only limit of the product is that it supports only Windows 95, 98 and ME. Best Regards Mario Pesce At 07:17 AM 1/12/04 -0500, Kenneth Schneider wrote:

On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 00:37, Tim Hanson wrote:

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I certainly wish SUSE and VMWare would get together and solve the problems getting them to work together. I have followed all the instructions both on the SUSE db and and the VMWare troubleshooting site, and I can't VMWare 4 to run on SUSE. The latest attempt ended with vmware-config.pl aborting when I followed the SUSE advice on vmmon.o.

This is getting silly. I depend on VMWare to run some Windows programs with no Linux substitutes. For now, I'm running it only on one of my laptops with 8.2 installed. This is a royal pain.

This is a royal pain.

A previous poster gave this suggestion which worked for my desktop and laptop.

install the -144 kernel (no need to reboot)

copy the vm* modules someplace safe

install the -166 kernel

copy the vm* modules to the misc directory

if the not-configured file exists in /etc/vmware delete it

reboot and you should have a running vmware.

PS. good to have this list back after the open relay problem was fixed.

-- Ken Schneider unix user since 1989 linux user since 1994 SuSE user since 1998 (5.2)

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Do you like Win4Lin? I currently run CrossoverOffice.. I was wondering which people feel is better... That depends on your personal needs: When using WINE and CrossoverOffice, you are running the Windows applications on Linux as if they were native Linux apps. The apps think

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:12:49 -0500 Charles wrote: they are running under Windows. Unfortunately, not all Windows apps work under WINE of cxoffice. In general, WINE's window directories are normally allocated in your home directory (or any other Linux native directory tree). Win4Lin is a virtual machine that runs under Linux. Under Win4Lin you are running a full blown copy of Windows 9x. The advantage is that Win4Lin can run nearly all Windows9x apps. However, you will take a performance hit. In general, Win4Lin's files are allocated similar to WINE, so you can easily access the files from Linux. Win4Lin costs a bit more than CrossoverOffice. VMWare is a full blown virtual machine system, and can run many different operating systems concurrently, such as Windows 2000, Windows 9x, Linux, FreeBSD. Other than the cost and performance issues, VMWare encapsulates each OS, such that they do not share any disk space. VMWare is expensive. - -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAAqsx+wA+1cUGHqkRAh61AKCGxi5rCbZckUuXSJr1LkEjMs59LwCeKquP 7i4PdoKHDwZDSGY8JL+mTJs= =pTvH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 12 January 2004 06:12 am, Jerry Feldman wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:12:49 -0500

Charles wrote:

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Do you like Win4Lin? I currently run CrossoverOffice.. I was wondering which people feel is better...

That depends on your personal needs: When using WINE and CrossoverOffice, you are running the Windows applications on Linux as if they were native Linux apps. The apps think they are running under Windows. Unfortunately, not all Windows apps work under WINE of cxoffice. In general, WINE's window directories are normally allocated in your home directory (or any other Linux native directory tree).

Win4Lin is a virtual machine that runs under Linux. Under Win4Lin you are running a full blown copy of Windows 9x. The advantage is that Win4Lin can run nearly all Windows9x apps. However, you will take a performance hit.

I've not seen much of a performance hit at all, graphics are not always as fast as native win98 but generally acceptable. I can start a win4lin winders 98 session followed by word 2000 faster than word 2000 alone launches under crossover office. Win4Lins weakness is that they are still not fully directx capable (some games work, some don't) and sound input is not available though output works fine. Some of my daughters games don't work and I think that may be related to some cd protection scheme but I haven't really worked that hard to find out.

In general, Win4Lin's files are allocated similar to WINE, so you can easily access the files from Linux. Win4Lin costs a bit more than CrossoverOffice.

And you need to do a win install on your linux filesystem (ie you need a win98 install cd). Installation works much better and faster (about 10 minutes for me) under win4lin than it does on fresh hardware. If you want kernel updates (security etc) then you have to update the kernel through win4lin. So far crossover hasn't been affected by any kernel changes I've made, so a little less maintenence there.

VMWare is a full blown virtual machine system, and can run many different operating systems concurrently, such as Windows 2000, Windows 9x, Linux, FreeBSD. Other than the cost and performance issues, VMWare encapsulates each OS, such that they do not share any disk space. VMWare is expensive.

I've found both crossover office and win4lin customer support to be excellent, If I could only choose 1 product I would go with win4lin. See ya - -- dh Don't shop at GoogleGear.com! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAAsHDBwgxlylUsJARAiDYAJ9bOeWMeBNeGHt+01zPtgKrtPgE7QCdH+z6 Evl8ZYMNDcKLmnqkqrkpxwM= =nkI8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Please DO NOT reply to the list and the poster. The poster is on the list and therefore recieves a copy. If you must do a reply-to-all because you don't know how to do a reply-to-list delete posters email address. On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 07:59, Mario Pesce wrote:

Hi,

an alternative product that I have installed wuthout any problem on SuSE is Win4Lin.

Win4Lin is -not- an option here as I need to run 2000. -- Ken Schneider unix user since 1989 linux user since 1994 SuSE user since 1998 (5.2)