Hello all, I want to set up a home file server, using RAID-5 with 4 or more disks per array (possibly 2 arrays in time). Any suggestions you could give me as far as a choice for a motherboard or a RAID controller? Oh, Gb ethernet might be a nice extra as well. Regards, Pieter Hulshoff
On Sunday 01 August 2004 11:48 pm, Pieter Hulshoff wrote:
Hello all,
I want to set up a home file server, using RAID-5 with 4 or more disks per array (possibly 2 arrays in time). Any suggestions you could give me as far as a choice for a motherboard or a RAID controller? Oh, Gb ethernet might be a nice extra as well.
Regards,
Pieter Hulshoff
If you buy a raid controller then it pretty much does not matter which mobo you get. But be sure you go to the supported hardware section of the SuSE Manual/Website and make sure the raid controller is supported. OR you could do software raid. This lets you use any mix of disks (scsi, ata, sata) and combine them into an array. Yast handles this quite nicely. With today's fast processors, the overhead of a software raid is no longer significant. Fuurther, you can upgrade processors along the way and get a speed boost but the raid controllers won't be any faster than they day you purchase them. As for the MOBO, just be sure you have enough pci slots, as its easy to get stuck with those boards that have only two or three slots these days. That makes it hard to add more controllers. And for IDE drives you really only want 1 disk per controller in the raid, which means you will have to buy a dual IDE controller to get up to 4 disks in the array. (2 on board and two on card). Sometimes event two ide controller cards are nice - that way you use the built in mobo controllers for other devices - see next para. I would recommend keeping all the system stuff on a regular flat disk, not in the raid array. (Whether or not its hardware raid or software raid). Its less complicated to set up and a lot easier when its upgrade time. Just unplug your raid controllers, upgrade the system and re-plug with assurance that your data will be untouched. If the budget will bear it, scsi is nice for this as well, but its a lot more expensive for disks and controllers to go scsi. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Monday 02 August 2004 10:37, John Andersen wrote:
If you buy a raid controller then it pretty much does not matter which mobo you get. But be sure you go to the supported hardware section of the SuSE Manual/Website and make sure the raid controller is supported.
It doesn't appear to have much info on SuSE 9.1. :(
OR you could do software raid. This lets you use any mix of disks (scsi, ata, sata) and combine them into an array. Yast handles this quite nicely.
Would this work well with a PCI controller? I'd expect that the kernel would send each package separately over the PCI bus, or ... ?
I would recommend keeping all the system stuff on a regular flat disk, not in the raid array.
That's a good tip indeed. I'll have a look to see if I have a small HD lying around anywhere for the OS. No need to waste a 160+ GB driver on that. :) Regards, Pieter Hulshoff
On Monday 02 August 2004 05:55, Pieter Hulshoff wrote:
On Monday 02 August 2004 10:37, John Andersen wrote:
If you buy a raid controller then it pretty much does not matter which mobo you get. But be sure you go to the supported hardware section of the SuSE Manual/Website and make sure the raid controller is supported.
It doesn't appear to have much info on SuSE 9.1. :(
I was looking for Serial ATA solutions earlier this year. I found the following webpage to be very helpful: http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html So far I've put together 2 systems with RAID. One with an LSI Logic MegaRAID 150-4, and the other with a 3Ware Escalade 9500-8. Of the 2, I'd say shoot for the Escalade. The performance seems to be much better.
OR you could do software raid. This lets you use any mix of disks (scsi, ata, sata) and combine them into an array. Yast handles this quite nicely.
Would this work well with a PCI controller? I'd expect that the kernel would send each package separately over the PCI bus, or ... ?
I don't know much about the operation of the software RAID driver, but I've read time and time again when researching solutions the Linux's software RAID driver beat the pants off of most manufacturer's software RAID drivers. HTH! -John
On Monday 02 August 2004 12:03, John Szakmeister wrote:
I was looking for Serial ATA solutions earlier this year. I found the following webpage to be very helpful: http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
Indeed! :) It also lists the HightPoint RocketRAID 454 as supported, which is a pretty cheap card for the functionality it offers.
So far I've put together 2 systems with RAID. One with an LSI Logic MegaRAID 150-4, and the other with a 3Ware Escalade 9500-8. Of the 2, I'd say shoot for the Escalade. The performance seems to be much better.
I've found a nice review on the Escalade, but I've not found a store in the Netherlands that sells it yet. I'll continue looking for a while though. Regards, Pieter Hulshoff
Pieter wrote regarding 'Re: [SLE] Which motherboard/RAID controller for home file-server?' on Mon, Aug 02 at 05:23:
On Monday 02 August 2004 12:03, John Szakmeister wrote:
So far I've put together 2 systems with RAID. One with an LSI Logic MegaRAID 150-4, and the other with a 3Ware Escalade 9500-8. Of the 2, I'd say shoot for the Escalade. The performance seems to be much better.
I've found a nice review on the Escalade, but I've not found a store in the Netherlands that sells it yet. I'll continue looking for a while though.
Just to throw my couple of cents in - I've had extremely good luck with 3Ware RAID controllers under Linux (and win 2K, actually). They perform well (both on a multimedia workstation and a few file servers here at work), the drivers work well, and the price isn't terrible. Given the low cost of IDE drives and the low probability that more than one member of the array will fail at any given time, I don't see any reason to go with SCSI on a hardware RAID card - esp. on a home system that can stand to be down for a few hours while a new drive's located, etc. --Danny, replacing some SCSI systems with ATA RAID right now
On Monday 02 August 2004 05:53 am, Danny Sauer wrote:
Given the low cost of IDE drives and the low probability that more than one member of the array will fail at any given time, I don't see any reason to go with SCSI on a hardware RAID card -
If you buy all your disks at the same time from the same source they are usually close to sequential serial numbers, manufactured in the same plant on the same day. To this add the fact that you will use them the same amount (especially mirrored) and power them up and down the same number of cycles. Reason (and experience) indicates that they may well fail very close together. I have known raid drives to fail within days of their array mates, and I usually get the call after the SECOND one fails, the users just ran right thru the first failure. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
John Szakmeister wrote:
I don't know much about the operation of the software RAID driver, but I've read time and time again when researching solutions the Linux's software RAID driver beat the pants off of most manufacturer's software RAID drivers.
It depends on your needs. If you have a system with lots of concurrent activity, software RAID on IDE *will* be a bottleneck. There *are* good reasons Adaptec why can sell their very pricey SCSI RAID controllers, and those are all about performance. If you're talking SCSI, I'm not sure how poor/well software RAID will perform in comparison to hardware RAID, but I suspect a hardware controller will still win if you're talking lots of concurrent activity. In Pieters case it's a home multi-media system - one user presumably, mostly single-threaded access. I think software RAID on IDE will probably do very well. /Per Jessen, Zurich
On Monday 02 August 2004 12:59, Per Jessen wrote:
In Pieters case it's a home multi-media system - one user presumably, mostly single-threaded access. I think software RAID on IDE will probably do very well.
Actually, it's multi-user (upto 4 most likely), single-threaded. Regards, Pieter Hulshoff
On Monday 02 August 2004 06:59, Per Jessen wrote:
John Szakmeister wrote:
I don't know much about the operation of the software RAID driver, but I've read time and time again when researching solutions the Linux's software RAID driver beat the pants off of most manufacturer's software RAID drivers.
It depends on your needs. If you have a system with lots of concurrent activity, software RAID on IDE *will* be a bottleneck. There *are* good reasons Adaptec why can sell their very pricey SCSI RAID controllers, and those are all about performance. If you're talking SCSI, I'm not sure how poor/well software RAID will perform in comparison to hardware RAID, but I suspect a hardware controller will still win if you're talking lots of concurrent activity.
Actually, I was referring to the fact that some of these cheaper IDE RAID cards are actually IDE controllers with a software RAID driver. In those cases, the Linux folks have substituted the 'md' driver in place of the software driver provided by the manufacturer, and have achieved much better performance. I completely agree that if what you need is throughput, then a true hardware RAID is the way to go. That's why I use the Escalade. :-) -John
On Monday 02 August 2004 12:12 pm, John Szakmeister wrote:
I completely agree that if what you need is throughput, then a true hardware RAID is the way to go. That's why I use the Escalade. :-)
Software raid on the same disks with a 2gig CPU is faster than your escalade. In fact its been this way since CPUs climbed above 900mhz. Software raid gets a bum rap because its often married up with cheap IDE and then compared against high end scsi solutions. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Tuesday 03 August 2004 05:26, John Andersen wrote:
On Monday 02 August 2004 12:12 pm, John Szakmeister wrote:
I completely agree that if what you need is throughput, then a true hardware RAID is the way to go. That's why I use the Escalade. :-)
Software raid on the same disks with a 2gig CPU is faster than your escalade. In fact its been this way since CPUs climbed above 900mhz.
Software raid gets a bum rap because its often married up with cheap IDE and then compared against high end scsi solutions.
What's the CPU overhead like? To be honest, I haven't attempted to use the software raid driver since my P3-500... and it wasn't doing to hot then. I also keep the servers fairly taxed. I'd be interested in hearing what you would envision as a decent software RAID solution. Right now with the 3Ware, I've got it set up as 4 disk RAID-5 with a hot spare. -John
On Tuesday 03 August 2004 01:51 am, John Szakmeister wrote:
On Tuesday 03 August 2004 05:26, John Andersen wrote:
On Monday 02 August 2004 12:12 pm, John Szakmeister wrote: Software raid gets a bum rap because its often married up with cheap IDE and then compared against high end scsi solutions.
What's the CPU overhead like? To be honest, I haven't attempted to use the software raid driver since my P3-500... and it wasn't doing to hot then. I also keep the servers fairly taxed.
I have an ancient Dual PII 266 server in one of our shops and programmers sit there all day running compiles on several worstations (doing most of the work directly off the server). When it gets slow, the cpu utilization is still under the noise, that is, top is still at the top of the list. It never exceeds 10% cpu. (Dualies are really nice for this).
I'd be interested in hearing what you would envision as a decent software RAID solution. Right now with the 3Ware, I've got it set up as 4 disk RAID-5 with a hot spare.
That's a very nice (safe) setup. I've run 4 disks (3+h) in some machines and others I just mirror. In one machine I had a software raidt made up of 2 IDE drives and 2 ScSI drives, (because thats what the budget would allow - e.g. what ever you can scrounge). I'v been running Software raid since Suse 7.1. I have this SCSI Adaptec raid card I purchased to replace one of the software raids, but since it hasn't given me any problems in 6 years I've left it alone, and just use the Adaptec for benching. Once my processor speeds got up above 900mhz, the software raids beat that old Adaptec every time (using the same disks). -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Monday 02 August 2004 02:59 am, Per Jessen wrote:
It depends on your needs. If you have a system with lots of concurrent activity, software RAID on IDE *will* be a bottleneck.
Actually IDE _MAY_ be a bottle neck, but software raid is faster than the cards the hardware raid solutions use in almost all cases. Go check the benchmarks. Your CPU scales up over time (as you upgrade), but that old raid controller is just as slow in two years as it is today. The CPU power in most servers today is just totally overkill and you might as well use it for something. Software raid more than holds its own on equal disks, with only the most EXPENSIVE hardware controllers being faster, and they usually gain this speed by supporting tons of cache. (which you could do with software raid just as easy). -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
Pieter Hulshoff wrote:
Hello all,
I want to set up a home file server, using RAID-5 with 4 or more disks per array (possibly 2 arrays in time). Any suggestions you could give me as far as a choice for a motherboard or a RAID controller? Oh, Gb ethernet might be a nice extra as well.
If you need 4 or more disks per array and 2 arrays, I guess we're talking SCSI. RAID controllers - pick any of the current Adaptec ones. Motherboard - if you were hoping to find one with a builtin SCSI RAID controller and Giga ethernet - I'm not sure they come in a price-range suitable for a home file server. But then again, neither does a multi-channel Adaptec RAID controller. Frankly, I wouldn't bother with RAID5 and the many disks - just do a simple RAID1 setup on 2 large IDE-drives. Obviously it depends on what sort of load you're expecting, but you did say *home* file server. Our office file-server runs a 300Gb RAID1 setup on two Maxtor Enterprise (=longer life) IDE drives. (mind you, it's only used for backing up files during the night.) Everything depends on your actual requirements, but in a lot of cases I chose RAID1 over RAID5. The drives are so cheap anyway that mirroring is just easier. /Per Jessen, Zurich
On Monday 02 August 2004 11:06, Per Jessen wrote:
Everything depends on your actual requirements, but in a lot of cases I chose RAID1 over RAID5. The drives are so cheap anyway that mirroring is just easier.
Well, I'm working on a home multi-media system, and the movies (especially the DVDs) are really starting to take their space (I own about 350 original movies + downloading is legal in the Netherlands), so I don't think I could afford to mirror every disk. Hence I was thinking about a (software) RAID setup of 4 or 5 disks (maybe 2 of such arrays). It's also the reason I prefer IDE over SCSI. I checked the SuSE database (thanx for the remembral John Andersen), but couldn't find much info on SuSE 9.1. One controller I really liked was the HightPoint RocketRAID 454, with 4 IDE ports, 8 devices, and hardware RAID-5 support. The corporate website claims SuSE support, but I've learned that that's no guarantee. Anyone have any experience with this device? Regards, Pieter Hulshoff
Pieter Hulshoff wrote:
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I checked the SuSE database (thanx for the remembral John Andersen), but couldn't find much info on SuSE 9.1. One controller I really liked was the HightPoint RocketRAID 454, with 4 IDE ports, 8 devices, and hardware RAID-5 support. The corporate website claims SuSE support, but I've learned that that's no guarantee. Anyone have any experience with this device?
Regards,
Pieter Hulshoff
Many of the Highpoint and Promise cards are simply IDE cards with the RAID being done in the driver. In other words, these are really software RAID. If you are going to be doing software RAID anyway, you should use the more mature md that came with your system. I would buy two additional IDE cards so each drive is by itself on a channel. I always mirror boot and swap. The rest can be RAID 5. HTH Louis
On Monday 02 August 2004 13:48, Louis Richards wrote:
Many of the Highpoint and Promise cards are simply IDE cards with the RAID being done in the driver. In other words, these are really software RAID. If you are going to be doing software RAID anyway, you should use the more mature md that came with your system.
I would buy two additional IDE cards so each drive is by itself on a channel. I always mirror boot and swap. The rest can be RAID 5.
Won't the PCI become a bottleneck? Would it be wise to get an on-board Gb connection, or would that still use the PCI bus? My current motherboard uses 4 IDE ports, so I guess with 2 IDE cards I should be able to create a decent setup. Perhaps I should consider investing a bit in S-ATA to keep the cable problem under control? Regards, Pieter Hulshoff
Pieter Hulshoff wrote:
Won't the PCI become a bottleneck? Would it be wise to get an on-board Gb connection, or would that still use the PCI bus?
I'm running an ATA133 Raid Card on PCI. Hardware RAID, so you only need to manage it from software - i.e. monitor it's status. Links 4 120Mb IDE's in striped/mirror, and you do see a speed improvement since only half the data has to come from a pair of drives. I run it as the 'data' drive, and have a separate pair of IDE's on the motherboard ports for boot and share partitions. ( DVD writer is on another machine so these drives have their own cables ) All works very well and not very expensive. 320GBP including the hot swap cradles. ( but I must get a spare disk some time just in case ;) ) Only problem - one of the disks had been used prior to going into the stack, and that caused a problem until it was wiped clean. -- Lester Caine ----------------------------- L.S.Caine Electronic Services
On Monday 02 August 2004 03:48 am, Louis Richards wrote:
I would buy two additional IDE cards so each drive is by itself on a channel. I always mirror boot and swap. The rest can be RAID 5.
Actually that's not totally necessary, as long as two drives in the SAME Array do not share a controller. So if he was planning two arrays anyway, he could use all of the Masters in one array, and all the slaves in the other array. (make sure the newer/larger/faster disks are masters and older/smaller/slower disks are slaves. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 01:08:38AM -0800, John Andersen wrote:
On Monday 02 August 2004 03:48 am, Louis Richards wrote:
I would buy two additional IDE cards so each drive is by itself on a channel. I always mirror boot and swap. The rest can be RAID 5.
Actually that's not totally necessary, as long as two drives in the SAME Array do not share a controller.
So if he was planning two arrays anyway, he could use all of the Masters in one array, and all the slaves in the other array.
(make sure the newer/larger/faster disks are masters and older/smaller/slower disks are slaves.
The current idea is as follows (using a HPT 454 PCI card, 4 channels, 8 devices): M S IDE1 OS DVD IDE2 MD0 HPT1 MD0 HPT2 MD0 HPT3 MD0 HPT4 MD0 leaving 5 slave ports for a later extention (where I will most likely switch the old array to the slaves, and place the newer (bigger) drives to the masters). Comments? Regards, Pieter Hulshoff
Hi, I had no problems with my CD burner in 9.0. Now with 9.1, cdrecord gives me the following error: baa:~ # cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone-dvd 2.01a27 (i686-suse-linux) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Note: This version is an unofficial (modified) version with DVD support Note: and therefore may have bugs that are not present in the original. Note: Please send bug reports or support requests to http://www.suse.de/feedback Note: The author of cdrecord should not be bothered with problems in this version. cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'. baa:~ # modprobe ide-scsi baa:~ # cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone-dvd 2.01a27 (i686-suse-linux) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Note: This version is an unofficial (modified) version with DVD support Note: and therefore may have bugs that are not present in the original. Note: Please send bug reports or support requests to http://www.suse.de/feedback Note: The author of cdrecord should not be bothered with problems in this version. cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'. I am able to use the burner as a CD-ROM drive, but it can't be used to burn with. Here is my uname: Linux baa 2.6.5-7.95-default #1 Thu Jul 1 15:23:45 UTC 2004 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
On Monday 02 August 2004 13:32, Misty Stanley-Jones wrote:
Hi,
I had no problems with my CD burner in 9.0. Now with 9.1, cdrecord gives me the following error:
baa:~ # cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone-dvd 2.01a27 (i686-suse-linux) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Note: This version is an unofficial (modified) version with DVD support Note: and therefore may have bugs that are not present in the original. Note: Please send bug reports or support requests to http://www.suse.de/feedback Note: The author of cdrecord should not be bothered with problems in this version. cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'. baa:~ # modprobe ide-scsi baa:~ # cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone-dvd 2.01a27 (i686-suse-linux) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Note: This version is an unofficial (modified) version with DVD support Note: and therefore may have bugs that are not present in the original. Note: Please send bug reports or support requests to http://www.suse.de/feedback Note: The author of cdrecord should not be bothered with problems in this version. cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'.
I am able to use the burner as a CD-ROM drive, but it can't be used to burn with. Here is my uname: Linux baa 2.6.5-7.95-default #1 Thu Jul 1 15:23:45 UTC 2004 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux Missed your question when I looked at the new posts. Sorry. Not certain I can be of help but...
Have you attempted using K3b? I reverted to SuSE9 because 9.1 had *major* problems w/burning. On 9, I have a problem between the PL-2303 converter --> modem & the burner. The modem must be shut down & [preferrably] the converter removed before burning or else a reboot is necessary after the fact. -- ...CH "The more they over-think the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain." Scotty
K3B will not solve this. I need to be able to use cdrecord within scripts. It's really silly -- it's some issue with modules.conf or something like that. I just feel stupid if I am the only one having the problem. By the way here is my lsmod: ide_scsi 15492 0 paride 8448 0 nls_iso8859_1 4352 0 vfat 14208 0 fat 43584 1 vfat udf 85380 0 snd_pcm_oss 57512 0 snd_pcm 97032 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_page_alloc 11528 1 snd_pcm snd_timer 25860 1 snd_pcm nls_utf8 2304 2 ncpfs 57760 1 ipx 26540 6 snd_mixer_oss 18944 1 snd_pcm_oss snd 61444 4 snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss soundcore 9056 1 snd usbserial 29040 0 <snip lp modules> edd 9368 0 joydev 10304 0 sg 35616 0 st 39068 0 sd_mod 20224 0 sr_mod 16292 0 scsi_mod 108748 5 ide_scsi,sg,st,sd_mod,sr_mod ide_cd 36740 0 cdrom 36764 2 sr_mod,ide_cd nvram 8456 0 speedstep_lib 3712 0 freq_table 4612 0 <snip hardware sensor modules> ac 4996 0 af_packet 20872 2 tulip 46112 0 ehci_hcd 27908 0 uhci_hcd 29200 0 intel_agp 18460 1 agpgart 30888 2 intel_agp evdev 9856 0 usbcore 103516 5 usbserial,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd ipv6 237440 34 subfs 7424 2 dm_mod 50300 0 <snip fs modules> On Thursday 05 August 2004 10:12, C Hamel wrote:
On Monday 02 August 2004 13:32, Misty Stanley-Jones wrote:
Hi,
I had no problems with my CD burner in 9.0. Now with 9.1, cdrecord gives me the following error:
baa:~ # cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone-dvd 2.01a27 (i686-suse-linux) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Note: This version is an unofficial (modified) version with DVD support Note: and therefore may have bugs that are not present in the original. Note: Please send bug reports or support requests to http://www.suse.de/feedback Note: The author of cdrecord should not be bothered with problems in this version. cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'. baa:~ # modprobe ide-scsi baa:~ # cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone-dvd 2.01a27 (i686-suse-linux) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Note: This version is an unofficial (modified) version with DVD support Note: and therefore may have bugs that are not present in the original. Note: Please send bug reports or support requests to http://www.suse.de/feedback Note: The author of cdrecord should not be bothered with problems in this version. cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'.
I am able to use the burner as a CD-ROM drive, but it can't be used to burn with. Here is my uname: Linux baa 2.6.5-7.95-default #1 Thu Jul 1 15:23:45 UTC 2004 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
Missed your question when I looked at the new posts. Sorry. Not certain I can be of help but...
Have you attempted using K3b? I reverted to SuSE9 because 9.1 had *major* problems w/burning. On 9, I have a problem between the PL-2303 converter --> modem & the burner. The modem must be shut down & [preferrably] the converter removed before burning or else a reboot is necessary after the fact. -- ...CH "The more they over-think the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain." Scotty
I'm sending this back to the list as I still have gotten no answer. I can not use the CD drive for burning. I can munt it as root. cdrecord -scanbus returns nothing, even as root. I have tried loading the ide-scsi module by hand. Using 2.5.7-104 of the kernel, stock RPM from SuSE. Getting frustrated as I need this to work! It worked under 9.0. I don't care if it only works as root, I need it to work somehow! On Thursday 05 August 2004 13:47, Misty Stanley-Jones wrote:
K3B will not solve this. I need to be able to use cdrecord within scripts. It's really silly -- it's some issue with modules.conf or something like that. I just feel stupid if I am the only one having the problem.
By the way here is my lsmod:
ide_scsi 15492 0 paride 8448 0 nls_iso8859_1 4352 0 vfat 14208 0 fat 43584 1 vfat udf 85380 0 snd_pcm_oss 57512 0 snd_pcm 97032 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_page_alloc 11528 1 snd_pcm snd_timer 25860 1 snd_pcm nls_utf8 2304 2 ncpfs 57760 1 ipx 26540 6 snd_mixer_oss 18944 1 snd_pcm_oss snd 61444 4 snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss soundcore 9056 1 snd usbserial 29040 0 <snip lp modules> edd 9368 0 joydev 10304 0 sg 35616 0 st 39068 0 sd_mod 20224 0 sr_mod 16292 0 scsi_mod 108748 5 ide_scsi,sg,st,sd_mod,sr_mod ide_cd 36740 0 cdrom 36764 2 sr_mod,ide_cd nvram 8456 0 speedstep_lib 3712 0 freq_table 4612 0 <snip hardware sensor modules> ac 4996 0 af_packet 20872 2 tulip 46112 0 ehci_hcd 27908 0 uhci_hcd 29200 0 intel_agp 18460 1 agpgart 30888 2 intel_agp evdev 9856 0 usbcore 103516 5 usbserial,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd ipv6 237440 34 subfs 7424 2 dm_mod 50300 0 <snip fs modules>
On Thursday 05 August 2004 10:12, C Hamel wrote:
On Monday 02 August 2004 13:32, Misty Stanley-Jones wrote:
Hi,
I had no problems with my CD burner in 9.0. Now with 9.1, cdrecord gives me the following error:
baa:~ # cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone-dvd 2.01a27 (i686-suse-linux) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Note: This version is an unofficial (modified) version with DVD support Note: and therefore may have bugs that are not present in the original. Note: Please send bug reports or support requests to http://www.suse.de/feedback Note: The author of cdrecord should not be bothered with problems in this version. cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'. baa:~ # modprobe ide-scsi baa:~ # cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone-dvd 2.01a27 (i686-suse-linux) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Note: This version is an unofficial (modified) version with DVD support Note: and therefore may have bugs that are not present in the original. Note: Please send bug reports or support requests to http://www.suse.de/feedback Note: The author of cdrecord should not be bothered with problems in this version. cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'.
I am able to use the burner as a CD-ROM drive, but it can't be used to burn with. Here is my uname: Linux baa 2.6.5-7.95-default #1 Thu Jul 1 15:23:45 UTC 2004 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
Missed your question when I looked at the new posts. Sorry. Not certain I can be of help but...
Have you attempted using K3b? I reverted to SuSE9 because 9.1 had *major* problems w/burning. On 9, I have a problem between the PL-2303 converter --> modem & the burner. The modem must be shut down & [preferrably] the converter removed before burning or else a reboot is necessary after the fact. -- ...CH "The more they over-think the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain." Scotty
On Wednesday 11 August 2004 21:26, Misty Stanley-Jones wrote:
I'm sending this back to the list as I still have gotten no answer. I can not use the CD drive for burning. I can munt it as root. cdrecord -scanbus returns nothing, even as root. I have tried loading the ide-scsi module by hand. Using 2.5.7-104 of the kernel, stock RPM from SuSE. Getting frustrated as I need this to work! It worked under 9.0. I don't care if it only works as root, I need it to work somehow!
Does "cdrecord dev=ATAPI: -scanbus" return any results?
Well it works but it sure does seem yucky. I never had to do it before. :( On Wednesday 11 August 2004 15:00, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Wednesday 11 August 2004 21:55, Misty Stanley-Jones wrote:
YES! Now what do I do next?
You use dev=ATAPI:0,1,0 (or whatever your device was listed as) as a parameter when burning
Misty Stanley-Jones wrote:
Well it works but it sure does seem yucky. I never had to do it before. :(
Try xcdroast. It seems to work better for me with the ATAPI drive interface than k3b. YMMV. -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Registered Linux user 231871
On Mon, 2004-08-02 at 11:32, Misty Stanley-Jones wrote:
Hi,
I had no problems with my CD burner in 9.0. Now with 9.1, cdrecord gives me the following error:
baa:~ # cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone-dvd 2.01a27 (i686-suse-linux) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Note: This version is an unofficial (modified) version with DVD support Note: and therefore may have bugs that are not present in the original. Note: Please send bug reports or
I did a clean install then Y.O.U. and everything worked. It could be some out of box error. BTW I have a LiteOn cdrw no issues with it. I would also check fstab to see if that subfs beta junk is there if so use your previous fstab which is the second thing I did before trying my first post install burn. -- _______ _______ _______ __ / ____\ \ / / ____|_ _\ \ / / | | \ \ /\ / / (___ | | \ \ / / | | \ \/ \/ / \___ \ | | \ \/ / | |____ \ /\ / ____) |_| |_ \ / \_____| \/ \/ |_____/|_____| \/ | \ /|\ || |\ / |~~\ /~~\ /~~| //~~\ | \ / | \ || | X |__/| || |( `--. |__ | | \| \_/ / \ | \ \__/ \__| \\__/
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