Re: [SLE] TV + fullscreen does not work
Are you sure the problem is only related to xv ?
I can't get fullscreen with tv apps only when I use kde. There are no problems anymore with windowmaker or xfce4. I also noticed that ogle can't get fullscreen, even if it uses XV output, but only under kde.
I get this bug with both my laptop computer (radeon powered) and my desktop computer (nvidia powered). So this bug is hardware independent.
That is why think this is a kde bug.
A friend mailed a kde developper about this problem and he (the kde developper) told him it will be fixed in kde 3.2. I'm sorry, I don't find this mail anymore, but I'll send it to the list as soon as I find it.
People who already use kde 3.2beta should not experience fullscreen problems with tv apps anymore.
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From : Hans du Plooy
On Tuesday 06 January 2004 14:39, sebastien wrote:
I can't get fullscreen with tv apps only when I use kde. There are no problems anymore with windowmaker or xfce4. I also noticed that ogle can't get fullscreen, even if it uses XV output, but only under kde. Thanks Sebastien, I'll try that tonight - I've only been using KDE so far
People who already use kde 3.2beta should not experience fullscreen problems with tv apps anymore. Any idea which KDE package specifically it is?
Thanks Hans
On Tuesday 06 January 2004 14:39, sebastien wrote:
I can't get fullscreen with tv apps only when I use kde. There are no problems anymore with windowmaker or xfce4. I also noticed that ogle can't get fullscreen, even if it uses XV output, but only under kde. Thanks Sebastien, I'll try that tonight - I've only been using KDE so far
People who already use kde 3.2beta should not experience fullscreen problems with tv apps anymore. Any idea which KDE package specifically it is?
Thanks Hans
Le Mardi 6 Janvier 2004 14:34, Hans du Plooy a écrit :
On Tuesday 06 January 2004 14:39, sebastien wrote:
I can't get fullscreen with tv apps only when I use kde. There are no problems anymore with windowmaker or xfce4. I also noticed that ogle can't get fullscreen, even if it uses XV output, but only under kde.
Thanks Sebastien, I'll try that tonight - I've only been using KDE so far
People who already use kde 3.2beta should not experience fullscreen problems with tv apps anymore.
Any idea which KDE package specifically it is?
Thanks Hans
Here is the answer of lubos Lunak about this problem : ******************************************** From: Lubos Lunak <l lunak suse cz> To: wm-spec-list gnome org Subject: Re: Aspect ratio SizeHint and fullscreen Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 20:45:43 +0200 On Monday 05 of May 2003 20:13, Billy Biggs wrote:
Lubos Lunak (l.lunak@suse.cz): [snip]
Should window managers ignore aspect ratio hints if the application is in a fullscreen state, or should there be a more explicit protocol? The problem is that when viewing 16:9 content on a 4:3 screen, you want the black bars on top and bottom in fullscreen, but in windowed mode, you want the window manager to only allow resizing which maintains the aspect ratio.
IMHO the aspect hints should be ignored for windows that have _NET_WM_STATE_FULLSCREEN set (they're only hints after all). If the window requests to be fullscreen, it should become fullscreen. If it doesn't cover the whole screen area, then ... well ... it's not fullscreen. I think the player in fact wouldn't even want aspect hints to be used for fullscreen windows. How would it otherwise paint the black area above and below the movie?
Well definitely a media player wants black bars on top and bottom, but is this necessarily the case in general? I'm trying to rationalize Havoc's interest in not fullscreening fullscreen apps, and I was thinking it might be reasonable behavior for, say, an xterm? I'm not entirely sure though.
First of all, the aspect hints are only hints. Nothing requires that the WM honors them (or the WM just doesn't have to support them, like one quite widely used WM I'm not going to name ;) ). E.g. XTerm has size increment hints, but works just fine if I run without a WM and force it to have size of the screen. In case it would be the app requesting to become fullscreen, that'd be easy - the app wants to be fullscreen, it will be fullscreen. The somewhat problematic part may be if user changes the state e.g. by right-clicking on the titlebar and selecting fullscreen operation. Given that the app is not guaranteed the hints will be obeyed, I think the WM could ignore them for fullscreen. If the window requests aspect 1:20, should making it fullscreen really mean there would be a narrow high window in the middle of the screen? Perhaps the WM should not allow making such window fullscreen, but IMHO if it's fullscreen, then it should fill the whole screen. That said, KWin obeys such hints for maximized windows, instead of fully filling the workarea with them. Maybe it should be up to the WM whether it will obey the hints for fullscreen windows or not? Your player will reset the aspect ratio hints before asking for going to fullscreen, and will have no problem with it.
By the way, does kwin listen to aspect ratio hints? It doesn't seem to here, and that's what I've been testing with.
The KDE3.1 one doesn't, only the kwin_iii branch for KDE3.2 does (I stole, erm, borrowed that code from Metacity, which borrowed it from ... [long list here] >;) ). -- Lubos Lunak KDE developer --------------------------------------------------------------------- SuSE CR, s.r.o. e-mail: l.lunak@suse.cz , l.lunak@kde.org Drahobejlova 27 tel: +420 2 9654 2373 190 00 Praha 9 fax: +420 2 9654 2374 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/
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