[opensuse] Changed provider - Yast DNS problems
Hi! I have today changed Internet provider and found that Internet configuration through Yast does not work as expected on 11.3. Previously I had PPPoE connection, now I have a direct connection to Internet. The servicemen who set up the connection obviously saw Linux for the first time so could not help. It seemed that the IP configuration went well but the DNS servers did not work. Any changes in Yast did not affect the problem. After the servicemen left I succeeded to set up the network by manually deleting file resolv.conf and renaming resolv.conf.netconfig to resolv.conf. The same problem I encountered this summer when my provider moved me from PPTP VPN to PPPoE. It seems Yast is completely useless when configuring DNS. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/1/2010 7:43 PM, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
Hi!
I have today changed Internet provider and found that Internet configuration through Yast does not work as expected on 11.3.
Previously I had PPPoE connection, now I have a direct connection to Internet. The servicemen who set up the connection obviously saw Linux for the first time so could not help.
It seemed that the IP configuration went well but the DNS servers did not work.
Any changes in Yast did not affect the problem.
After the servicemen left I succeeded to set up the network by manually deleting file resolv.conf and renaming resolv.conf.netconfig to resolv.conf.
The same problem I encountered this summer when my provider moved me from PPTP VPN to PPPoE.
It seems Yast is completely useless when configuring DNS You're hooking into a modem right? Are you using a router? My PPPoE is handled by my ISP's modem, so I shut off DHCP on the modem and use a router to distribute IP's to my internal network. Maybe your modem now does the same? If this is the case, you may have to bridge the modem.
This would mean instead of setting up an internet connection via Yast, you would just have a regular network connection and just set up network services. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/1/2010 6:08 PM, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
On Saturday 02 October 2010 04:53:14 Michael S. Dunsaavage wrote:
You're hooking into a modem right?
No, I have no modem
Really? You got cat 5 right from the street into your house? Anything else requires a modem. -- _____________________________________ At one time I had a Real Sig. Its been downsized. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 02 October 2010 05:15:10 John Andersen wrote:
You're hooking into a modem right?
No, I have no modem
Really? You got cat 5 right from the street into your house?
Yes. They just cut the cable by scissors just outside my flat and made a socket to connect it to another cable by the other provider. With former provider I had unlimited (no traffic charges) 5 Mbit/s Internet and 100 Mbit/s LAN plus torrent re-tracker so I could download torrents from Internet with 100Mbit/s speed. Outcoming Internet speed was not limited (up to 100 Mbit/s) With new provider I have unlimited 10 Mbit/s Internet but no LAN. But there is a "turbo button" on their site, by pressing which I can speed up to 50 Mbit/s for an hour. Also the outcoming speed is limited according the subscription. With old provider I had to use PPPoE so to connect Internet (otherwise I had only LAN access), with new provider I have direct connect to Internet with real IP. I can connect up to 5 devices to Internet which all will get separate real IPs for free, since the whole port on the router is assigned to me. The IP addresses will change only if I change the hardware as the IPs are assigned by MAC address automatically. With old provider I could connect only one computer and if I changed the hardware I should phone them so they register the new MAC address. The real IP changed from session to session. Also my subscription to the new provider is twice cheaper than the old one (about $8/month). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2010-10-02 at 05:37 +0400, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
IP addresses will change only if I change the hardware as the IPs are assigned by MAC address automatically.
Then you are probably using automatic addresses, ie, dhcp, which means the DNS server is also suplied automatically - and perhaps this is what fails. In yast, traditional setup, you can choose not to accept the DNS from dhcp and put your own. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkynGC4ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VZxQCfc7GHVWxLNM4lrA+XxU0UJpn7 80gAnjIIcC6Tb2neQIL/rTA1e489Cybl =l3HL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 02 October 2010 15:31:51 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Saturday, 2010-10-02 at 05:37 +0400, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
IP addresses will change only if I change the hardware as the IPs are assigned by MAC address automatically.
Then you are probably using automatic addresses, ie, dhcp, which means the DNS server is also suplied automatically - and perhaps this is what fails.
Yes.
In yast, traditional setup, you can choose not to accept the DNS from dhcp and put your own.
This also does not work. Only manual editing resolv.conf works. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2010-10-02 at 15:51 +0400, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
In yast, traditional setup, you can choose not to accept the DNS from dhcp and put your own.
This also does not work. Only manual editing resolv.conf works.
Notice that if you edit that file, yast is dissabled. This is documented. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkynNskACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VZTgCeOCraC4cwjVmoyIhIMw7TaHak CHAAn1U6NLP5zQdZDCzKc8c83R6jR+xS =LBep -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 02 October 2010 17:42:27 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Saturday, 2010-10-02 at 15:51 +0400, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
In yast, traditional setup, you can choose not to accept the DNS from dhcp and put your own.
This also does not work. Only manual editing resolv.conf works.
Notice that if you edit that file, yast is dissabled. This is documented.
How does it determine if I edited it? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/02/2010 09:45 AM, Ilya Chernykh pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On Saturday 02 October 2010 17:42:27 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Saturday, 2010-10-02 at 15:51 +0400, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
In yast, traditional setup, you can choose not to accept the DNS from dhcp and put your own.
This also does not work. Only manual editing resolv.conf works.
Notice that if you edit that file, yast is dissabled. This is documented.
How does it determine if I edited it?
YaST keeps track of what is supposed to be in the config files and when the file(s) different it gets flagged as such and then YaST won't touch it. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 02 October 2010 18:42:14 Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
On 10/02/2010 09:45 AM, Ilya Chernykh pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On Saturday 02 October 2010 17:42:27 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Saturday, 2010-10-02 at 15:51 +0400, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
In yast, traditional setup, you can choose not to accept the DNS from dhcp and put your own.
This also does not work. Only manual editing resolv.conf works.
Notice that if you edit that file, yast is dissabled. This is documented.
How does it determine if I edited it?
YaST keeps track of what is supposed to be in the config files and when the file(s) different it gets flagged as such and then YaST won't touch it.
How to unflag them so Yast to think they are untouched? By the way, DNS setup through Yast did not work before I made any changes to this file so I had to edit it manually. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/02/2010 10:47 AM, Ilya Chernykh pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On Saturday 02 October 2010 18:42:14 Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
On 10/02/2010 09:45 AM, Ilya Chernykh pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On Saturday 02 October 2010 17:42:27 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Saturday, 2010-10-02 at 15:51 +0400, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
In yast, traditional setup, you can choose not to accept the DNS from dhcp and put your own.
This also does not work. Only manual editing resolv.conf works.
Notice that if you edit that file, yast is dissabled. This is documented.
How does it determine if I edited it?
YaST keeps track of what is supposed to be in the config files and when the file(s) different it gets flagged as such and then YaST won't touch it.
How to unflag them so Yast to think they are untouched?
By the way, DNS setup through Yast did not work before I made any changes to this file so I had to edit it manually.
The easiest way with this file is to delete it with rm /etc/resolv* By the way IIANM this will only work if you are using ifup style of config and not with NM. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
The easiest way with this file is to delete it with rm /etc/resolv*
I tried this. This does not help either. The only method works is to delete /etc/resolv.conf then do netconfig update and then rename resolv.conf.netconfig to resolv.conf
By the way IIANM this will only work if you are using ifup style of config and not with NM.
I use only ifup, NM even not installed. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/02/2010 06:40 PM, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
The easiest way with this file is to delete it with rm /etc/resolv*
No the easiest way is to set it up /etc/sysconfig/network/config and look for these two # Defines the DNS merge policy as documented in netconfig(8) manual page. # Set to "" to disable DNS configuration. # NETCONFIG_DNS_POLICY='auto' ## Type: string ## Default: "" # # List of DNS nameserver IP addresses to use for host-name lookup. # NETCONFIG_DNS_STATIC_SERVERS="" If you set these properly /etc/resolv.cong will be created correctly and you don't have to remove the file with contents you do not want HTH Togan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 02 October 2010 22:01:23 Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
If you set these properly /etc/resolv.cong will be created correctly and you don't have to remove the file with contents you do not want
These settings are set as you wrote. Nevertheless I experience the problems. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 19:47, Ilya Chernykh
On Saturday 02 October 2010 22:01:23 Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
If you set these properly /etc/resolv.cong will be created correctly and you don't have to remove the file with contents you do not want
These settings are set as you wrote. Nevertheless I experience the problems.
So what if you do "rcnetwork restart" does the file stay the same? nslookup what are the exact results? e.g. # nslookup opensuse.org That should pretty much narrow down where the issue is created. -- Med Vennlig Hilsen, A. Helge Joakimsen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2010-10-02 at 17:45 +0400, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
Notice that if you edit that file, yast is dissabled. This is documented.
How does it determine if I edited it?
It keeps track of the original, using checksums: /var/adm/netconfig/md5/etc/resolv.conf - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkynzN4ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XzpwCghW4/nEk9Z0AwCLO1SkmwFp2J MYsAninCxKY3u6IKgqPcWYKYZUcGd1oe =wVoY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
It keeps track of the original, using checksums:
/var/adm/netconfig/md5/etc/resolv.conf
So how to make it to change this file via Yast? I do not want always change it with hands. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 2010-10-04 at 08:13 +0400, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
It keeps track of the original, using checksums:
/var/adm/netconfig/md5/etc/resolv.conf
So how to make it to change this file via Yast? I do not want always change it with hands.
I'm not sure, but perhaps removing the md5 file. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkyplY4ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VvTACdF9TzOPpPiAl8ZidJ736ncTB8 2y8An2BZL4Yp6MlhtcbUEJJ1Ox/MuteC =4OUY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 04/10/10 05:13, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
It keeps track of the original, using checksums:
/var/adm/netconfig/md5/etc/resolv.conf
So how to make it to change this file via Yast? I do not want always change it with hands.
Either edit it in Yast2 - Network Settings or go to /etc/sysconfig/network/ and change stuff there, most options are documented (I think you might be interested in NETCONFIG_DNS_STATIC_SEARCHLIST) Regards, Tejas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 2010-10-04 at 10:21 +0100, Tejas Guruswamy wrote:
On 04/10/10 05:13, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
It keeps track of the original, using checksums:
/var/adm/netconfig/md5/etc/resolv.conf
So how to make it to change this file via Yast? I do not want always change it with hands.
Either edit it in Yast2 - Network Settings or go to /etc/sysconfig/network/ and change stuff there, most options are documented (I think you might be interested in NETCONFIG_DNS_STATIC_SEARCHLIST)
NO, it will not work. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkyppYQACgkQtTMYHG2NR9U8HACfTDIy4I1hVSPhYxm7YFnyWipe jwAAniOQMTFQ8ofYzlKH6MnUl1jp15v4 =BbxN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 04/10/10 10:59, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Monday, 2010-10-04 at 10:21 +0100, Tejas Guruswamy wrote:
On 04/10/10 05:13, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
It keeps track of the original, using checksums:
/var/adm/netconfig/md5/etc/resolv.conf So how to make it to change this file via Yast? I do not want always change it with hands. Either edit it in Yast2 - Network Settings or go to /etc/sysconfig/network/ and change stuff there, most options are documented (I think you might be interested in NETCONFIG_DNS_STATIC_SEARCHLIST) NO, it will not work.
- -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" at Telcontar) Umm ... care to elaborate?
Regards, Tejas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 2010-10-04 at 17:12 +0100, Tejas Guruswamy wrote:
Either edit it in Yast2 - Network Settings
NO, it will not work.
Umm ... care to elaborate?
We already said days ago, that once you manually edit resolv.conf yast will refuse to configure it ever again. It is a feature. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkyqDDEACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VXFACdFPNpo6U9mxPFvX/JqpO3BoFd 5l8An33cPhJ/P5Rc+QiSCyZHf/s8YWA9 =csiG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 04/10/10 18:17, Carlos E. R. wrote:
We already said days ago, that once you manually edit resolv.conf yast will refuse to configure it ever again. It is a feature. My contribution was assuming you had already got past that point (by e.g. removing /etc/resolv.conf and restarting network), and wanted to edit it again the "correct" yast2 way. But yes, you are correct, the first step is to remove any manual modifications.
Regards, Tejas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 05 October 2010 01:11:53 Tejas Guruswamy wrote:
We already said days ago, that once you manually edit resolv.conf yast will refuse to configure it ever again. It is a feature.
My contribution was assuming you had already got past that point (by e.g. removing /etc/resolv.conf and restarting network), and wanted to edit it again the "correct" yast2 way. But yes, you are correct, the first step is to remove any manual modifications.
After deleting resolv.conf it is not re-created. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 05/10/10 05:31, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
On Tuesday 05 October 2010 01:11:53 Tejas Guruswamy wrote:
We already said days ago, that once you manually edit resolv.conf yast will refuse to configure it ever again. It is a feature.
My contribution was assuming you had already got past that point (by e.g. removing /etc/resolv.conf and restarting network), and wanted to edit it again the "correct" yast2 way. But yes, you are correct, the first step is to remove any manual modifications.
After deleting resolv.conf it is not re-created.
Does a /etc/resolv.conf.netconfig exist? *Move* that to /etc/resolv.conf and YaST should be able to edit the dns settings. Regards, Tejas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 05 October 2010 11:56:18 Tejas Guruswamy wrote:
We already said days ago, that once you manually edit resolv.conf yast will refuse to configure it ever again. It is a feature.
My contribution was assuming you had already got past that point (by e.g. removing /etc/resolv.conf and restarting network), and wanted to edit it again the "correct" yast2 way. But yes, you are correct, the first step is to remove any manual modifications.
After deleting resolv.conf it is not re-created.
Does a /etc/resolv.conf.netconfig exist? *Move* that to /etc/resolv.conf and YaST should be able to edit the dns settings.
Already did so. After this DNS become working. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 04 October 2010 21:17:36 Carlos E. R. wrote:
Either edit it in Yast2 - Network Settings
NO, it will not work.
Umm ... care to elaborate?
We already said days ago, that once you manually edit resolv.conf yast will refuse to configure it ever again. It is a feature.
How to make it to configure it through Yast now? Re-install the system? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, 2010-10-05 at 08:28 +0400, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
We already said days ago, that once you manually edit resolv.conf yast will refuse to configure it ever again. It is a feature.
How to make it to configure it through Yast now? Re-install the system?
I don't know with this module. On other modules, removing the file is enough, or removing the checksum file. I think you have to remove the checksum and copy an original file, perhaps /etc/resolv.conf.netconfig. Then perhaps running SuSEconfig to apply changes. If that doesn't work, create a bugzilla. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkyribIACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UVZgCfRefFHEMpgnNph5gNYsiY91ky f3sAn3oOmiaXNH4asiNj8oy7okSmCM9b =w/Sy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Andrew Joakimsen -
Carlos E. R. -
Ilya Chernykh -
John Andersen -
Ken Schneider - openSUSE -
Michael S. Dunsaavage -
Tejas Guruswamy -
Togan Muftuoglu