On Sunday 18 May 2008 14:22:15 Basil Chupin wrote:
Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Basil Chupin escribió:
You work for SUSE LINUX Products GmbH in Platform/OpenSUSE - Core Services and you have the affrontery to call me a "troll"?!
yes, you are complaining, without any constructive action about bugs of a product that has not been released and is expected to have bugs, based on the highly questionable assumption that openSUSE 11 is "continuation", It isnt, it is a new product, that even has a new codename. :P.
If it is a "new product" then name it 'newopenSuSE v0.001' and also tell everyone that it's code name is "xxxxx" - eg, "stubby" as in the way MS gave the Vista the codename of "longhorn" - so that everyone knows what we are dealing with.
Just for the record.. take openSUSE 10.3 and "just" change the compiler, rebuild all stuff, then you will figure you have $N new regressions..this is much more complicated than what you think.
I understand this, but nobody asked for this to be done and everyone out here expects, just like in the past, for a better put-together version of SuSE- a progression of the OS and not a regression. If 'you' want to put out a new version of the OS then say so, give it a new name to identify that it is a write-up from scratch and also tell everyone that this is what the next version - 11.0 - is all about.
I have said this elsewhere, 11.0 is little different to 10.3 from what I have seen except for the new kernel. However, the biggest difference is KDE - which is what is bringing openSUSE down and which is making me feel sorry for all the effort you fellows have put into v11.0. Even KDE3.x is now being affected by what is in KDE4 -- and KDE4 is not ready to be pushed on to the public, irrespective of what the fellow with his hair dangling down and covering half his face because he cannot afford a haircut tells 'us' in his UTube blurb.
Ciao.
-- Vulgar language is the linguistic crutch of inarticulate morons. Interesting points. KDE4 seems to be at the root of my desktop problems on 10.3 64bit and from what I can gather it's causing many many problems else where too. I've been on the KDE mailing list for a long time. Activity is almost zero. Very unusual for a new release. Looks like most people have more sense. Much activity on Debian's kde mailing list - most likely on testing or unstable.
My impression of 10.3 64bit is that it isn't suitable for release. I've had more trouble with it over 2 weeks than I have had with 10.1 since it came out. I've even had to use cntrl alt del. Many people used to scream for updates. Largely because of web problems. Not so now as firefox is currently well supported. John -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org