Listmates, Currently I am having problems with kcm_gtk (the control center module that makes your gtk apps [i.e. firefox/tbird/gimp] look like they should in kde). There have been 5+ versions of this module in the past 3 months and 3+ in the last two-weeks. Currently, the only way I can get thunderbird to look right is to manually start gnome-settings-daemon (which defeats the purpose of normally only using gcond-2 to apply the settings -- gnome-settings-daemon is rather big) With only gcond-2 running the gtk themes only partially render. Even with gnome-settings-daemon running, all the file (open/save/save-as) dialogs are screwed up. The coloring is ignored and the font size is screwed up. Here are a couple of screenshots that will help. gnome-settings-daemon is running in theses screenshots. (much worse with just gcond-2 running) The first shows this email message. Notice the menubar is blank (black text on black bg), and the menus are unreadable (black text on dark menus). (60k) http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/bugs/openSuSE/tbird-gtk-menus.jpg Basically, the part of opensuse that reads you .gtkrc-2.0-kde4 (or -kde for kde3) isn't using the gtk theme colors and is using a black default that really screws things up. Next, all of the dialogs (tooltips included), ignore your chosen font size and make all fonts Ginormous (Ji-norm-ous). It looks like a default 12pt font size is used instead of the set 8pt. (41k) http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/bugs/openSuSE/tbird-gtk-filesave.jpg I have tried 15+ versions of kcm_gtk and kde3-kcm_gtk going back to April 2009 and the results are the same. So I don't think it is the kcm_gtk package itself, but whatever part of opensuse reads the .gtkrc-2.0-kde* is likely what has changed and is now broken. Does anybody know what package/process this is? All was working great until 5-6 days ago, then after update, all hell broke loose. Anybody else seeing this? -- or am I just lucky :p -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org