Ben, I also have Mandrake, and have never had the hw scan eat my mouse. Mandrake hw scan has an option when it runs to "butt out". This is a good compromise. i.e. (paraphrased) I see your mouse seems to have changed, should I: 1. Try to identify your new mouse (in real time, using the same rules that I used to identify it correctly the first time) 2. Kill Your mouse 3. You tell me what mouse you use 4. Butt out, the world is not perfect, change nothing (note if you had a power failure, or your dog tripped on the mouse cord, and all is well, choose this one, but 1. will work also, as I am using the same method I used to identfy the mouse 4 months ago when you installed). ;-) On Sunday 27 April 2003 13:57, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
* dep (dep@linuxandmain.com) [030427 10:29]:
->fine. no problem there. my point is that i suspect that people looking ->for a "don't detect hardware" check box might not think to find ->someplace to type "insserv -r hwscan" or, if they found such a place, ->to type that string. -> -> ->i have no reason to doubt your statement that that command has been in ->use since 8.0. which makes it just fine for those who have used 8.x ->and have followed the discussions. however, if suse's target market ->is limited to that group, its user base is likely to diminish, don't ->you think?
Yes, I think there should be a section in YaST2 for people who depend on YaST2 to do what they need as far as system administration that lets one decide what services are run at boot. I know there is a run level editor but I'd say that 10 out of 10 newbies wouldn't know what a run level even is. So maybe renaming the run level editor to something like "services editor" or something like that might work for the OSX and Windows people who come over to SuSE...since that's what it is under those platforms.
My point was that hardware scan and the rpmchecker are two things that people seem to like. I heard NO end to how Mandrake was better then SuSE because it did a hardware scan at boot and configured new hardware automatically. Newbies seem to love that silly crap...I however would rather just have hardware scanning as a function in YaST2 or something like that. I'm not much of a fan of auto anything..with certain acceptions.
After years of hearing complaints from various sections of the population about this OS or that OS..that app or this app. I've come to the conclusion that it's not Linux that isn't ready of the unwashed masses..it's computers. I even hear complaints about OSX. *shrug*
I think what it boils down to is that computers are not VCR's as people expect. I think most don't want to be bothered with truly learning what they are using...10% seems to be enough for them.