Wow, you're even incapable of using google. That's sad and explains a lot.
2014-06-03 10:36 GMT+02:00 Dirk Gently
Damian Ivanov wrote:
You have no clue. Use google.
I have. That's how I found out these things.
But that's ok, keep living the lie.
2014-06-03 9:08 GMT+02:00 Dirk Gently
: Damian Ivanov wrote:
You have no idea. Not the slightest clue. You can't keep it technical. Fuck you Dirk Gently.
1. systemd doesn't produce ASCII (or for that matter, UTF) log files, it produces binary blob log files.
Which means you can't just browse through a log file using grep, awk, and/or more (or less).
2. systemd eliminates separate log files... so if you're looking for ntp messages, we no longer have ntp log files... now we have to wade through the whole combined (binary only) logfile
3. The old time tested method of keeping log files small and maneagble (daily rotation) is now also broken, YATFUBSD (Yet Another Thing Fucked Up By SystemD)
Obviously, you're either ignorant or making up more lies. Which is it?
Do you want to keep on playing this idiotic game where you make false assertions, and I point out how the truth differs from what you say it is?
2014-06-03 2:26 GMT+02:00 Dirk Gently
: Damian Ivanov wrote:
You can run a different logging daemon like syslog-ng no problem. Also journalctl which seems to be your problem can filer per application, time etc. everything and write to file. no problem.
So, we're supposed to run TO loggin deamons now....
And this is an improvement how, exactly, Damian?
Do you understand how absolutely idiotic that "solution" is?
It's not a solution, it's a pollution.
2014-06-02 9:19 GMT+02:00 Dirk Gently
: > > > > Damian Ivanov wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Maybe on Kay Sievert, yes he is problematic (as personality in open >> source). systemd doesn't not do everything. Under the systemd >> umbrella >> are few additional daemons reimplenting a lot of services. If you >> build systemd with all configuration options enabled you will build >> 69 >> individual binaries. These binaries all serve different tasks, and >> are >> neatly separated for a number of reasons. At compile time you have a >> number of configure switches to select what you want to build, and >> what not. >> >> That developers code stuff that requires systemd is not systemd's >> fault. > > > > > > You don't konw that the fuck you're talking about. > > If the syslog deamon has been removed, then I can't sent logging > messages > to > a standard file handle which can (in the startup script) be sent to > the > syslog process. > > Instead, deamons NOW have to call a special logging function in > systemd > to > have anything logged. > > Thus, now the applications have to be aware of systemd... which then > makes > systemd NON-REPLACEABLE. > > > haven't the past 30 years of Microsoft's machinations taught you > anything > about the inherent evilness of "embrace and extend" programming. > > Systemd is being designed to be a one-way trapdoor, so that, if/when > people > realize that it's not all it's been sold as being (in fact, not even > close) > then it will be impossible to replace it without ALSO rewriting tons > of > other code in other projects. > > That reason alone makes it stupid for any distribution to adopt it. > > > >> You don't like GNOME? Use something else. You have a problem >> >> with systemd as init or with some of all the services under >> systemd's >> umbrella (logind etc.)? You could develop alternatives for these. >> You >> don't want to? You want other people to develop for YOUR personal >> preferences? This ain't gonna happen. And as upstart is dead from >> now >> on and openrc doesn't do the job, let's embrace systemd with all of >> our heart. >> > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org > To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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