-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2010-02-12 10:51, Johannes Meixner wrote:
Hello,
On Feb 11 21:46 Carlos E. R. wrote (shortened):
... I use a laser color printer (HP cp1515n)
Just for fun an example how one could calculate printing costs (i.e. the costs for a printed page) according to information what HP provides on their German web pages:
Their HP Color LaserJet CP1510 model web page reads 249 Euros for the printer which has 4 so called "Starter" toner cartridges included which last up to 750 printed pages according to the "ISO/IEC 19798" standard so that one "ISO/IEC 19798" printed page costs about 33 Euro Cent (without the money for the plain paper).
Their supplies web page reads 76,99 Euros for the black toner replacement cartridge which last up to 2200 printed pages and there times 70,49 Euros for each of the cyan, yellow, and magenta toner replacement cartridges which last up to 1400 pages.
Interesting info indeed. I suspected as much, that the starter cartridge lasts shorter, but I was unable to find definitive info in the hp site. I thought that both types lasted 800 pages. However, I have only spent one black cartridge, and it did about 1300 pages. Colour is "officially" about half spent. The info page at my printer reads at this moment: supply level part pages remaining Black Cartridge 90% CB540A 1936 Cyan Cartridge 42% CB541A 475 Magenta Cartridge 39% CB543A 475 Yellow Cartridge 41% CB542A 476 Therefore, your info is correct. However, your prices are not: I googled a bit, and found toner replacement at 48.42€ (56.17 with taxes). It is curious indeed, but I knew this already: http://www.tonerspain.es/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=CB541A&gclid=CNeptI_J7Z8CFVpb4wodZXSWXg http://www.shopmania.es/compras~online-consumibles~compra-hp-cb541a~p-739653... (one of the listed places has a price higher than hp itself (unless the taxes misleads me) >:-) ) Could it be that those places sell cartridges that don't last 2200 pages? The black above is from HP, bought together with the printer as an special offer (for black only). The replacement stack at home I bought somewhere else. If I finally discover they contain less toner you will hear me grumble as far as the North Pole >:-) Anyway, even if toner is expensive, it turns cheaper in time spent (MY TIME!) to get my previous printer running each time. Cleaning, testing, more cleaning, refilling, cleaning again... hours. And spent aka lost ink in the process. Toner does not dry on the head nozzle, quality is stable for months... True, I don't usually print photos, mostly text with some figures. Another interesting detail is that the page counter on the printer counts down to zero and stays there, so that the several hundred pages I printed above the limit are not counted. So I wonder if "something" could be attached to cups and do a real count of printed pages, till the user manually resets the counter. And printing above the limit needs overriding a control on the printer itself, it is impossible to do it via the printer control web page. Perhaps with the windows driver, that I don't use. I'd like to find the following "gadget" or wizzardry: 1) Count printed pages till reset, and across several printer queues that are attached to the same physical printer. This should not be too complex. 2) Estimate toner/ink spent, by counting number of pixels of each basic colour (and intensity). This can be very complex if accurate. What do you think?
Therfore it makes sense to buy initially the printer plus one set of replacement cartridges but it does not make much sense to buy initially the printer plus 10 sets of replacement cartridges because I think it is better to keep the 2596,14 Euros for 9 of the 10 sets of replacement cartridges on a bank account so that it can yield interest ;-)
ROTFL! And the printer could break down in that time, and the replacement printer would need a different cartridge. Murphy's laws, you know. Off you go with a stack of expensive contaminants at home! :-p Or the storage conditions could not be perfect, and the toner dust would fuse together and be useless. This is south Spain, temperatures of 40℃ are not that rare.
Of course the costs for A4 photo printouts are very much higher because the complete printable area of A4 paper is printed and good photo paper is much more expensive.
I have not tried photo paper with that printer, I use normal paper. The quality is surprisingly good, that toner is a bit shiny. Of course, I don't print full page.
And I no longer have to clean heads :-)
And in particular with a PostScript color laser printer you do no longer have to clean the brain in your own head from all those bizarre nightmares about never-ending troubles regarding how to tame whatever cheap printer beast ;-)
Absolutely! Of course, I went for a model that listed what I thought would be enough memory (96MiB, I think). On occasion I had to use the pcl? driver. The symptom is that cups sends the page to the printer, but this one remains silent, no clues. Then I send as pcl, I think, and goes fine, but the computer has to hum longer. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Elessar)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkt1xCYACgkQU92UU+smfQXH2ACdGSfOKJB7qAlMZMep4FtLAbM5 Ez0An0Uva6jFLRIkJbl7fysE+hc5gEAc =U93h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org