On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 6:21 AM, Richard Brown
(SIDE NOTE: there has been a few comments about the 'granularity' of snapper that suggest that people do not know just how well it works.
If I do an update, OS and application binaries are all conflated into one event. This isn't related to Btrfs or Snapper, but neither solve this problem either. The rollback mechanism doesn't help me figure out whether the problem is system or application related. I get to rollback both or neither. And the package manager doesn't make it at all obvious how to downgrade the application to the previous version, or two versions back. [1] So really the problem I'm having with this arrangement is extremes in granularity. There is insufficient granularity separating OS and apps. But there are four snapshots for the single downgrade event I did in [1] and there are changed files in each of those snapshots, so I really have no idea what each of those things are, it's too much information to sort out and make a decision from. It's immensely easier to downgrade on OS X where I just go find the older version disk image file on mozilla's web site, drag and drop uninstall the new version, and drag and drop install the new version. Or I can even rename the new one and both can coexist in /Applications at the same time, without conflicting with each other, without affecting any other binaries on the system. It's 8000% better Ux. I'm hopeful xdg-app offers such self-contained bundled that work similar to this, except better, and are more portable across the distributions. [1] Install Tumbleweed 20160307 YaST > Online Update shows no updates. Click Search tab, type in firefox, click Search button, click on Versions tab. 44.0.2 is installed, 45.0-1.1 has a radio button on it, but it won't install when I click Accept. *shrug*. OK so go back and click on 44.0-1.1 under that, click Accept, and there's a list of Automatic Changes which shows a bunch of files about to be changed that have nothing to do with Firefox, e.g. libwayland-server0, libuuid1, libz, libopenssl, libncurses, so I click Continue and in fact a bunch of those things are downloaded and ostensibly installed. Now I click on Snapper and I see 44 items even though openSUSE was installed just a few hours ago and no updates have been done. I have no real good way of figuring out -- Chris Murphy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org