-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Graham Anderson wrote:
On Tuesday 28 July 2009 22:25:48 Carlos E. R. wrote:
I find the idea of having a default desktop - any desktop - almost offensive.
Oh please spare us the self sacrifice you make to ensure you remove _ALL_ packages and only install the ones you want of choice.. I can almost feel the pain it must have caused you to look at the pattern selection of current openSUSE and be driven to near suicide by the idea of having to have useless crap installed by default... ¬_¬
What were you doing when KDE was the default desktop previously? Proselytising that it was anti free software or just getting on with your life by installing what you wanted anyway?
It must of been pre v8.00 when it was was a default. Spent a lot of time mucking around with the different options available, tended to use KDE3 for quite a while until discovered some other stuff. It was usable but not particularly special. One of strengths of Linux is choice. Must admit do not really mind having an idiot install, so long as there is an expert install. I usually upgrade rather than re-install but having being forced to re-install from scratch due to reasons beyond my control, I had recently my first experience of the 'improved' installation process. I found the dumbed down installation process with some rather dodgy defaults a definite retrograde step. It is useful to have some default starting templates from which to start a new installation (which I seem to remember being available at one time but seem to have now disappeared), but the current one size fits all install is not very much use to someone who *knows* what they want to put on the machine, and just creates much unwanted grief for an experienced user. Did not want (or need) KDE4, so initially went with GNOME and was pleasantly surprised the improved effective basic interface of the newer version over previous versions I came into contact with. Definitely better for the function that machine provides. I do not want to be in the situation where I would have to strip one desktop out and reinstall my preferred selections. I am with Carlos on this one. It does (unintentionally) insult the intelligence of those who have an idea of what they are doing to provide near mandatory defaults. This really requires a balancing act between those who know little and and could not care less, and those who know a lot and care more. If you get the former at the expense of loosing the latter you have lost the distro. - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkpwCucACgkQasN0sSnLmgJJSwCePGvz74BddjT3A/1yNvOAej+N tT8AoKNQh/b+wGNjHzXV1x+WcXVFDyWr =QXgK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org