I missed this one earlier. "What kind of cave did I live in for the past 15 years?" First, my most disagreeable person, that's really non of your business. Now that you know it is none of your business, I haven't been at all involved with linux got the past 20 years and am just trying to grasp some concepts and some understanding of it without asses like you coming along, not reading all of the messages and making judgements with old time linux language that doe drive users away. There were a lot more of your stinking ilk 20 years ago and thankfully very few now. So now I put this garbage to rest and regret that I can't tell your geek head this in person, face to face. Like I previously said, I just don't care about crap like you. I forgive easily, but I doubt if you have the real guts to go back, see where you were wrong, and apologize. Get it? Or am I out of your league because I can sure get way out of your league if you want to. John B. P.S. Every addition that you made wasn't an addition. It had already been said, but in a decent manner called human to human. Not with smart ass snide remarks. On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 15:53 -0500, John B Pace wrote:
I can't recall any viruses, malware, but then I've probably only put 90 hours into linux altogether, which is why I introduced myself as an older dummy. What did you mean about being a non-root user. I'm normally no-root except when I need to be in root. I see that you just came on board as far as downloaded files. That solution was taken care of a good deal of time ago this morning with some excellent answers. There were no "of course not." That phrase should be left out of conversation about discussing solutions. It sounds like old linux answers by those that think they may have something over the rest of us. I don't and won't put up with that crap. I don't need your preaching with your capitalizing either. In fact, I don't need you disrespect at all, so keep it to yourself because I surely don't care what you say or what others say to my response.
John On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 10:36 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
John B Pace wrote:
So, it is like it used to be, Carlos? Really no need for antivirus software?
Non-root users still don't have root abilities, so, no, of course not.
Do downloaded files suddenly make themselves executable, without you chmod'ing them?
The security model hasn't changed since 1970, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE!
Remember, the Unix security model was designed with the presumption that ANY user might accidentally do something utterly stupid, and so the whole system was designed to protect users from each others' stupidity.
Interesting that the windows machines are being protected from themselve.
What cave have you been hiding in for the last 15 years?
I assume some distros must be weaker than others? Or why would clamav or antivir (Avira GmbH) been created.
To weed out Microsoft viruses.
Sheesh, John, name one Linux virus.
The last outbreak of malware in the *nix community was over 20 years ago...and that was due to buffer overruns (which have since been corrected) on hardware so obsolete that you can't even find in operation any more (VAX-11 and Motorola 680x0 CPUs)
I'm probably sticking my foot in my mouth or worse my head where the sun doesn't bother shining, but I'm really curious as to clamav and antivir. You don't have to answer this if you don't want, Carlos. I can check it out! Thanks! John
They're for the purpose of protecting Windows clients from malware-infested Windows viruses.
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