On Friday 11 August 2006 11:04 am, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
No argument. I don't believe that you have been denied you opinion. I don't believe that you would have felt slighted, had they tried.
Well, to give credit where credit is due, after our long discussions when I first came to this list, I haven't been "policed" when I top post much longer. Whether that is because I've been /dev/null 'd or not, who knows, but YOU certainly have backed off of me, and it is appreciated.
When a discussion about a topic is relegated to, "Well, just do it because it is how it has been done in the past, and how we want it done now", it looses the chance for growth / understanding.
No, Philipp presented substantiated *reasons*.
And therefore, logically, one could assertain that it wasn't him that I was speaking to. This in general is where (in my opinion) the majority of formatting discussions end up. And that is what I was speaking to.
Again, the list is open, but the administration, which also bears the cost, is not, so standards are to be accepted.
For me it is a matter of Respect, efficiency, ease of use, and personal gain all combined. I wouldn't say selfishness (phillip's term) over pesonal gain. When I help someone else, ultimately it is for my own personal gain. Whether for the feel good "I helped somebody", the carma plan, or both, it is different from selfishness, because the distinction is that selfishness is to the exclusion of regard for others. If someone has the answer to my question, by all means, make it easy for yourself and me by top posting the quick answer. If it involves more explination, or review of quoted text, or break down to specific points, by all means interject your text with the OP's. If your reply doesn't speak to, or need to reference past text, trim them out. My point is to not badger people who are logically making choices and thinking for themselves and taking things on a case by case basis, with respect for others and efficiency, just because it isn't considered the 'norm'. Hell, if I'm in a store, and someone is about to make a bad, un-educated choice, that I believe they'll regret, and I have the ability to help, but not the time, I might do something un-conventional. Instead of introducing myself, and going about it in the way that would be expected, or the 'norm', I may just walk by and say something that will enable the customer to have a chance at learning what they're missing. A word or distinction that enables them to ask the right questions, get what they need to know, and benifit. I don't think I'll even speak to the "do it my way because I paid for it". I would concider it the same tactic of, "this is what has been done in the past, so do it now". Oh, and even though I speak these ideals here, I still reserve my right to tell my son, "Because I said so!". heheh B-)
Noting your disagreement, your expected compliance will most certainly be appreciated.
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