Hi folks, I am looking to start learning java programming , and have been wondering about both jbuilder from borlanmd and visialage from ibm. I know that borland is a "programmers" shop while ibm is more of a corperate shop. So as a novice leval programmer wnating to jump intpo java and who will be learing it from the start which is mpore suited to this situation ? I mainlly what to make a few databse apps and was leaning towards borland duento there data source type components. Do they both work well with postgress amnd other open source simple sql databses ? Like I said I am somewhere betrwwen newbie and novicee on the experiance scale and have mostly worked with application generates which I have found to be lacking when you need to make them do what yoiu want and not what they do want. I have also dablled with and made a few delphi apps as well. Delphi I realy like but its not out on Linux yet. I was aslo looking to Python/gaby but its only text based and there were not printing tools foe gaby and that rout would seem to meen hand coding evertthing as opesed to an ide/component level type tool like jbuilder/visualage that can be dropped and modified to what you want. Feel free to correct me on the python thing maybe I over looked somthing ? -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq