And again misinformed hate-speech rant is the content of the last post.
2014-06-10 23:52 GMT+02:00 Linda A. Walsh
Damian Ivanov wrote:
And you are complaining no matter if you're informed or wrong just for the sake of complaining and hating.
Anton Aylward wrote:
On 2014-06-08 03:55, Linda Walsh wrote:
Except it had code in it to disable compat. It **disallowed*** the init.d stuff working if it found unit files in systemd. It wasn't for compat -- it was for breaking init so it wouldn't touch services that were being handled by systemd.
Indeed.
I really do wish that Linda would take the time to check before making assertions derogatory to systemd that are quite incorrect. Spreading such misinformation, does little to endear the positive things she has to say.
Both of you need to stop your kidding. You want proof? Look at the note from Patrick just before yours.
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There are packages in the distribution that have both init.d script and systemd service files. As the openSUSE uses systemd, it is better to use systemd native files, they should work better in the distribution (and having both cause problems). Thus there is a new policy to start removing those init.d scripts from packages (13.2)."
---- That says the systemd files are the only ones that are tested to work and if both are present the systemd path is "preferred" over the sysV path. Officially (though it happened in 13.1 in several instances), the sysV stuff was disabled with it trying to use / contact systemd. Problem was two fold. When it was running, it didn't change the config in accordance with the sysV scripts (some did, but not all). Second -- when systemd wasn't running, it still tried to use systemd and failed -- with no option or fallback to use the sysV scripts.
From my perspective, I got new versions of products that no longer worked with sysV because they tested for systemd files and disabled sysV compat if they were found. That's exactly what I said above. My system went from working to not working because of that. So I gave up on systemd and rolled back to working systemd files.
You may not have encountered the same problems because you don't run as many services, but starting @ runlevel3 when the system first comes up I have about 470 processes and 370 'tasks'. I run a wide variety of services, maybe more than the average person.
As for my "tweaking" being micromanagement? It's a computer, not a person, so the term micromanagement wouldn't apply. But please remember, I'm a computer scientist -- so of course I will tweak things ... What's the point of having a computer if you can't tweak it -- Just go buy an iphone.
Now maybe you can understand that what I said was exactly true, though it may not have been how you imagined it.
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