I can not figure this out. When I use a dialup, the first attempt after booting works fine most times But on the second attempt, it normally fails to work, stopping at: password: --> Looks like a password prompt. --> Sending: (password) This is me...is this you? Exiting shell, and starting PPP session. ~[7f]}#@!}!}!} }8}!}$}%\}"}&} }*} } }%}&a[18][16]D}'}"}(}"Gd~ --> PPP negotiation detected. --> Starting pppd at Sun Feb 24 20:29:22 2002 --> pid of pppd: 4093 --> pppd: Using interface ppp0 and thats it... Problem A. With that is that dialup uses PAP not PPP and wvdial fails to detect that. But thats what it does 99.9% of the time on me, and have no clue why, anyone have an idea? Rob -- ********************************************************************** This post is encrypted in the "english language method", any attempt to decipher meaning from these symbols is a violation of the DMCA. This includes, but is not limited to: interpreting the symbols through use of biological, visual decryption devices, translating the symbols into another language encryption scheme, and digital processing the symbols into a form conducive to oral intrepretation. Thank you for your time. **********************************************************************