... on a Pico Consul laptop, over the easter weekend I was impressed: I just booted off the 6.4 cd (once burnt), accepted all the defaults, and let it go, and it finished up at a useable KDE desktop, with my internal sound system and Xircom PCMCIA network card all correctly detected and configured. I thought that was impressive, particularly seeing as it was a laptop rather than a desktop machine. I installed the updates immediately, forewarned about the X/Netscape problem and have thus not encountered it. I did encounter some visual glitches on the screen mode it configured, but I think it's a hardware glitch on my machine - going down to a 16-bit display cleared it up completely. I also needed to use SaX to tell it to use emulate3buttons. I had some more problems when I wanted to more tightly configure the system to my tastes. The suse kernel sources didn't match the kernel that was actually installed, so recompiling it (eg: for K6-2 and a few other tweaks) started to cause problems. I lost ALSA sound, for instance. Eventually I cut loose and cooked my own 2.2.14 kernel with pcmcia modules from base sources (thus losing USB which was in the SuSE version), and installed OSS (bought when I was still on 6.0) for sound, and all is well. Netscape 6 PR1 wouldn't work on this system - it starts, but hangs on first interaction with it. I downloaded the Mozilla M15 sources and built them (also requiring that I get and build a set of other libraries' development environments - GTK+, GLib, LibIDL, LibJpeg etc.) and that works fine (with debugging off and optimization on, it's quite quick too). While I was at it (Mozilla takes a *long* time to build!) I downloaded and built Gnome up from source, but parts of it don't seem to be able to find other parts of it, and I had to mangle my home dir's .xinitrc in order to use it at all. SuSE gets in the way a bit there. Enlightenment on its own (built from source) works much better, though bizarrely missing the apps menu which makes starting apps a bit tricky. I think I'll stick with KDE - but while Gnome/Enlightenment seemed badly configured, it was also much more stable than previous SuSE versions I've tried, which kept crashing. I'd heard this, which was why I tried it. -- Rachel -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/