Cliff, I would have to agree also about Linux. I am pleased SuSE stays so busy as to keep us new and updated releases coming. As a newbie, I have thought at times, the one thing I love about Linux is that the OS & software are continually updated, fixed & made better. On the other hand, the one thing I hate about Linux, is that the OS & software are continually updated, fixed & made better! Such is the world of Open Source though and I think we have to accept that as users. The one thing that still seperates us from the apes though is our ability to reason, think things out. It is our decision how and when to incorporate or add those updates, fixes, etc. and not complain about them, just seek & inquire answers from all the knowledgable people on this list and in the Linux community! ;-) Regards, Lee -------------------------------------
On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 08:49:58AM -0000, Peter John Cameron wrote:
I finally fixed it by compiling kernel 2.4.13 and ensuring that the usbcore and usb-uhci modules are loaded during boot up in the /etc/rc.config file. I'm also using the latest smppd package. My modem now works :) If Suse continues to rush releases out, it won't do their reputation any good, nor Linux's.
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*>On Tuesday 30 October 2001 05:35 am, Cliff Sarginson, went on about:
Firstly a SuSE distribution is of course, a linux kernel modified by SuSE, plus the SuSE specials (yast etc) plus the usual GPL and other open-sourced/free for private use stuff. I have complained before that SuSE bring out new distributions far too quickly, the period between 7.2 and 7.3 was way too short for the kind of testing a distribution needs,
Secondly there is the Linux kernel, which evolves at a rate of knots, in less than a year 2.4 has gone up to 13 releases, with more on the way before 2.4.6 is started I would guess, I don't think they have even started 2.4.5 yet
I am very uninterested in new Suse releases, but generally track the kernel releases pretty quickly, but from a reputation point of view it looks pretty bad, and (I always get flamed for quoting this) as someone said "Linux appears to be in a permanent state of Beta test".
So Linux is a complex world, if you want to contrast a philosophy you might look at the completely different approach of Free BSD, or even in the Linux world of Debian who the last time I looked are still not "officially" using the 2.4 kernel series. ********************************* -- ---KMail 1.3.1--- SuSE Linux v7.2--- Registered Linux User #225206 /tracerb@sprintmail.com/ *Magic Page Products* *Team Amiga* http://home.sprintmail.com/~tracerb