On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 19:00 -0400, Anton Aylward wrote:
Ken Schneider - openSUSE said the following on 04/24/2012 02:52 PM:
In a year or two it should be out of alpha/beta stage.
I'm running Fedora-15 with systemd on another machine. I have been since -15 came out. Even from the start I haven't encountered or been able to replicate on the fedora box the problems with systemd that have been described here.
My laptop still runs 11.4 ....
I don't prefer fedora. I *do* prefer the management systems available under suse: what's under /etc/sysconfig, zypper and the like. I'm ambiguous about _some_ aspects of YAST, but prefer them to what I have under fedora.
But fedora is stable and reliable with systemd. I don't think its a alpha/beta issue. It may be a matter of integration, but that's another topic.
About fedora-16 I don't know. I'm not committed to redhat. When I got this machine I decided to play with other distributions and saw the postings here about problems with systemd about the time I was installing fedora and stayed with fedora "just to see ..."
Systemd works and works well. On fedora.
Maybe I'll get another machine and try 12.1 or 12.2 and see if its my "magic fingers" or if there really are problems with systemd on suse. Because there sure aren't the problems I see reported for 12.1 on this fedora-15 I'm running!
I am certainly not against change _if_ it leads towards improvement. But some aspects in 12.1 still needs looking after. And the transition could be somewhat more user friendly: For ages i'm used to do /etc/rc.d/daemon_name "start|stop" I know that there are lots of pages on the net explaining how to do that incase you missed the "F5" button, but some of those pages definitely are in need of reviewing ;-[*] probably my bad luck of choosing the wrong ones. There are third party-product that only describe (re)starting/stopping the systemv-way in their manuals. In case systemd is used, it would be handy that _if_ you were issuing a systemV-command it would either translate it into the proper systemd-equivalent, Or at least give a hint. sometimes you are at places where you have no way of accessing the net. Aren't we doing that now if you type the name of a command that you didn't install? (just a thought..) Regarding Fedora: Your version might appear "stable and reliable", but regarding more recently versions, the opinion on their own list indicate otherwise, to put it _very_ mildly. If you read those stories you would almost feel sorry for them, almost i said. So i'm certainly not against systemd, but untill everything works 100% i would rather see it not used as installed as default. Hans -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org