* Herman L. Knief (herman@knief.net) [020920 14:10]: ::You're missing the point. The issue is adoption by contect providers of ::any sort. If they adopt, then unless you are running a "trusted" client ::(read M$) then you are screwed. If you think you have a hard time going to sites like www.honda.com (flash site and they didn't check if anything else used it) and www.capitalone.com (for ssl banking/CC manangement)..it's going to get worse. What if they do a check on your "trusted" application and it doesn't return the right info. You will be locked out. And if you modify your software to send bogus info..you better believe they will record it. And after Herr Ashcroft is done over the next few years..get ready to do hard time for stupid shit. It's probably a real fear with the ChickenHawks that are running the U.S. Gov right now..and maybe for the forseeable future..since most Americans are SO scared right now that all those Chickenhawks have to do is say *boo terrorist* and they will have the power to do anything they damn please as long as people have the illusion they are safe. It's all crap. -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org Tell me what you believe.. I tell you what you should see.