On Sunday 04 June 2006 15:11, suse@rio.vg wrote:
I've seen it reported here many times.
So what else is new? I've already acknowledged the "effects seem to range from serious to only mildly annoying and are different from system to system. No one says it isn't buggy, but to infer it is "throttling" everybody's machine is just plain wrong." Your distorted view of the situation doesn't change the facts.
I've installed it on three different machines which all exhibited the same behavior...
And this proves what? Your procedure is faulty?
In fact, I haven't seen anyone mentioned that it _doesn't_ throttle their machine every time they login to a KDE session with zen-updater running.
You're obviously not paying attention. I've said it isn't "throttling" mine. Greg has just posted the same. There have been others, so you must not be paying close attention.
The _only_ people that don't seem to be having the issue are those that leave their machines on 24/7 already logged in.
You asserted this earlier. Based on what data? My system was running10.0 through last night until I booted to 10.1 early this a.m. The mild level of activity I experienced was just as I've described it previously.
For them, the wrenching update process is done in the dead of night.
Again, what evidence do you have to support this unfounded claim?
For everyone else, it's at login. And if you login and logout, it happens again. Joy.
This may be *your* experience, but it is *not* everybody's.
I'm sure your schoolteachers are happy with you, but I've seen no hurry in developer postings about this. I read the thread on the opensuse-factory and opensuse.org pages. As I recall, the speed is talked about as a "usability issue" that is "complex" and to be addressed "in the future". It smells like sometime in the next version, not next week.
Here's a sampling from the last +/- 24 hours. I haven't saved them all, just the ones I was interested in following up: On Friday 02 June 2006 03:45, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
We're currently pushing out an update to the package/patch management stack and I'm asking for additional testing.
On Friday 02 June 2006 08:45, Brian Blater (BBList) wrote:
Following the above steps I was able to use the Zen Updater on two 10.1 systems. I only had one issue and that was one of the machines had packman and suser-guru listed as installation sources... The other machine worked without a hitch. ... Thanks for your work. Brian
On Friday 02 June 2006 08:55, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Yes, this is shouldwork - please add them again and if you get the error file a bugreport at bugzilla.novell.com and attach /var/log/zmd-messages.log and /var/log/zmd-backend.log - we need to investigate why it does not work,
On Friday 02 June 2006 11:24, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Did you restart it? If not, please create another bugreport for this,
On Friday 02 June 2006 11:46, Marcus Meissner wrote:
We are actively working on the speed issues and on the bugs. AJ has written parts of those in an e-mail: http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse-factory/2006-May/0580.html
On Saturday 03 June 2006 11:08, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
rug patches shows the patches. yast2 online_update - and zen-updater. zen-updater is just a single click after start,
Honestly, where do you get off claiming "It smells like sometime in the next version, not next week." with this kind of communication and activity under way? What a bunch of FUD! Go have a cold one and calm down!
You really ought to tack at least *one* disclamer/caveat: YMMV maybe?
Why? I've had enough of this and I refuse to mince words to satisfy egoes.
So now we arrive at the truth. You're more concerned about not "satisfying egos" than contributing, objectively, to the forward momentum of the tests and eventual resolution of these problems. This is Linux. If you don't like the software, fix it! If you can't, at least have the decency to treat the developers respectfully. Carl -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com