I started using Suse with version 8.0 so I've never done an upgrade. I've upgraded KDE a couple weeks ago to the latest version 3.1.1.xx and I've got dependency problems with some KDE applications when I try to update. I don't mind doing a fresh install but don't want to lose anything...and don't get me started on backups. What's the difference between an installation and update? I looked into doing an installation and found that I still had dependency problems. I don't mind dumping all of my current KDE and going to the version on the CDs, but how would I do that? Can I do a fresh install and keep my network connections, shortcuts, etc? Thanks for helping an idiot. Tom --- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com