Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Sam Clemens
writes: This is EXACTLY the sort of KDE4 at any cost mentality that I've been complaining about KDE4 is ****NOT**** even Beta...Even the KDE website still calls KDE4 ***ALPHA***-grade software, and yet, dunderheads like you, stefan, insist on foisting it on new users as ready for production use.
Sam, did you install Beta3 and see the options listed there for the desktops?
If not:
SHAME ON YOU!
;-)
Andreas
Andreas, you should know more than anyone else that when people install a new release - and especially if they are new to the distro because they have heard good things about it - that they do not read closely what appears in front of them on the screen. Install the damn thing while the adrenalin is flowing! They see something called KDE4, which is placed ahead of KDE3, so they choose KDE4 ahead of KDE3. Reading that KDE4 is not as "mature" as KDE3 does not register - OK, openSUSE is stating that it is kinda of a dog's breakfast compared to KDE3 but openSUSE has placed it here so they consider it OK to install otherwise openSUSE wouldn't have put it here....... (Gnome? Oh, yeah...Gnome, the one with the big funny footprint.... Forget it! KDE (Russian, and similar languages, meaning, "Where"). Better than the black footprint thingie so let's go with KDE which many people have mentioned.) If you want to pursue your argument about seeing what the options the user sees concerning which desktops are available to install then put KDE4 under the Optional and leave the selectable options in 11.0 as in 10.3, that is as Gnome, KDE (ie, KDE3), and Optional until such time as KDE4 is "mature" enough to have its own separate entry as a serious desktop in the main list of selectable desktops. Ciao. -- Vulgar language is the linguistic crutch of inarticulate persons. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org