On Tuesday 28 October 2008 19:00:53 Felix Miata wrote:
On 2008/10/28 18:42 (GMT) Anne Wilson composed:
On Tuesday 28 October 2008 17:45:12 Felix Miata wrote:
So?
15 questions, 0 answers from you. Is that because you couldn't figure it out either?
I saw the graphic. I didn't scroll down far enough to see the questions. The 'hide panel' is one of the few things that are still not available. It's coming, but it's not here yet. Most of those other questions are already answered on http://userbase.kde.org. I don't propose to answer them en masse here.
What I see there, and it's only a sample of v3 vs. v4 differences, is a whole bunch of paradigm shifts. Little works the way I expect, if I can even figure out how to do what I want at all.
Then ask.
I just did, 15 times. 0 answers.
There are too many differences, too many things missing,
such as?
You still haven't answered this.
You mean besides the 15 things you didn't answer?
KDE4 should be uniquely named to differentiate it better from its vastly different predecessor, and for the foreseeable future, full KDE3 development should be continued.
Yes, they are paradigm shifts. The whole point is that that was never in doubt. It was well-publicised long before KDE4 arrived on the desktop.
That's why it needed/needs a whole different name, to distiguish what it really is from what it professes to be. It's much too different to be a legitimate replacement for its namesake. I can't imagine learning how to use it is materially less difficult for a typical KDE3 user than learning how to use Gnome.
Well this is one user that found it so.
I do agree that the changes are big enough to feel quite daunting at first, but there are plenty of people around who are more than willing to help by explaining things. My objection is about whiners who make vague statements instead of asking for specific information. IMHO they have little intention of learning anything new, so should simply stay away, going with a KDE3 distro.
I asked. Where are the answers? More importantly, why should so many need ask or complain?
Why should you not need to?
There are too many non-obvious answers needed, too many differences among things that worked so well before "upgrading". People should not need so much to be asking anything just because of an "upgrade". That they do means something's very wrong with the "upgrade".
By your reasoning, gnome is absolute rubbish just because I dislike it and will not use it. Why can't you accept that there is a perfectly good availability of desktop, whether you choose gnome, enlightenment, KDE4 or KDE3 - or any other for that matter. I'm spending many hours a week answering genuine questions and helping get the information onto userbase. I can't make you read it, but don't complain that the information isn't there if you haven't even read it. Anne