As far as I know I only use four apps that require Gnome. Firefox, Thunderbird, Gftp and Gramps. Well, maybe five if you include Sunbird. NOW I can't even update my KDE stuff without getting into LONG strings of Gnome conflicts. I can't even get my openSuSE install DVD out of the drive because it says I don't have Kmediamanager running. Pushing the eject button on the drive does nothing because SOMETHING has it locked. I can't "unmount" the drive. I guess I'm going to have to resort to the paper clip method to open the drive tray. If I could get the video to work I think I would go back to 10.0 on this box. Hell, I might as well just install the Vista upgrade when I get it. Can't have any more headaches than I do now. The hell of it is that I was just getting this thing to work pretty good. Now I think I may just scrap 10.2 and wait for 11.0 to come out and try again on this box. Use it for Windows till then. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org