Don't take the following too serious because I am losing my mind. Ok so I use SuSe since 5.3. Great product and it has come along nicely. Once in a while you cross a problem though where you think: what a fucking shit. yast2 is such problem. I read others here complain about yast2. I mean who to fuck needs this graphics crap? all I want is a working utility which assists in setup. yast1 used to be this tool and keeps being handy for my work. yast2 never really crosses my mind. previous to suse 6.4 getting sound was a bit difficult. You had to usually compile it yourself. I remember spending months in 5.3 to get my sound to work. Once I finally did it worked perfectly. until 6.4 rolled around and with it yast2 and the fact that SuSe started trying to include sound setup with its distro. From there on sound setup may have become easy for people who like yast2 and think it does a good job. For me yast2 makes sound almost impossible to enjoy. I got opl3sa2 card. The problem is that if I use the alsa.rpm and alsadev.rpm and use yast2 to set sound up it gives me sound but loops forever. it's not sound its noise. So there I tell myself that I just don't use yast2 and compile my sound like in the past myself. The problem is ever since suse created this automatic sound setup its impossible to compile alsa yourself. I constantly get this stupid error: amixer: Mixer 0/0 open error: Invalid argument So now I spend 3 hours on trying to get my sound back. I had it achieved once under 6.4 and 7.0 but it took me hours and now where I put new HD in my box I came to the same problem again. The sound is harder to configure than it was before suse tried to do it for me. The problem now isn;t even that I don't have sound. The mixer 0/0 problem will not even vanish if I uninstall and reinstall packages freshly. what a junk. I wish we all go back to good old text file setup and none of this yast2 junk. sorry for the rant. mk PS: I noticed there was now a conf.modules and modules.conf file in the distro. Maybe I slept but since when did this happen? It's not even symlinked. They are separate files. is SuSE so special that it needs it both ways? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com