2009/9/4 Adam Tauno Williams
On Fri, 2009-09-04 at 16:14 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
It is sad; openSUSE is a fabulous distro I use all day at work and then at home. But the signal-noise ratio, and just the crank factor, of this list is unbelievable. I leave for awhile because it is just a waste of time - and every time I come back it is just the same. You should see the mess that is the Ubuntu list. I am actually using that distro now, but I stay subscribed here (and at Fedora and Debian) because of the list quality. Although I agree that there is too much bickering and childplay on this list, it is _not_ one of the worst out there.
A scary thought. I've been a UNIX admin for 16 years and used LINUX since 0.99a - but almost exclusively I've stuck to upstream [project] lists. Looking at these [downstream?] lists I wonder if the distributions wouldn't be better of without them. Any end user who comes here would get a pretty bad taste of the community - which is not at all represented by the kind of pointless negative haranguing that dominates this list.
That depends on who the end user is. I have a feeling that the typical end user is no longer a seasoned Unix admin, rather maybe a high-school age or younger kid. These kids find the slack environment on these lists inviting and comfortable. You and I hate it, but we are not typical users anymore. Linux adoption is spreading fast. We are seeing new groups of users and nobody really knows what to do with them. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org