August 2023 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[oS-EN] Small Thunderbird nuisance
by Carlos E. R. 27 Aug '23

27 Aug '23

So I have in the top panel the list of messages on a thread on a mail list, collapsed or not. I hit "N" to go to the next new (unread) message. The message displays fine in the bottom panel, but the top panel doesn't center focus on the new current message. I have to search for it with the mouse, and the colour difference is very light, almost invisible. This worked previous to this update. Or. I have a collapsed thread, all messages unread. I select the thread with the mouse. No message displays in the bottom panel. I hit "N", and it opens the second message. Prior to this version, it opened the first post. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.5 (Laicolasse))

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Fwd: ACTION NEEDED: Understanding the current mood and trends among our contributors
by Carlos E. R. 26 Aug '23

26 Aug '23

This might be interesting to all. The survey is mostly intended for contributors, but the first line in it mentions users: «This is an informative survey to understand current mood and trends among our contributors and users..» So I have my doubts. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: ACTION NEEDED: Understanding the current mood and trends among our contributors Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 12:53:21 +0000 From: Lubos Kocman via openSUSE Factory <factory(a)lists.opensuse.org> Reply-To: Lubos Kocman <lubos.kocman(a)suse.com> To: factory(a)lists.opensuse.org <factory(a)lists.opensuse.org> Hello openSUSE! In the past few weeks, a couple of different ideas have been proposed to define the future direction of the openSUSE Leap "successor" distribution. We've put together at the openSUSE ALP Leap Replacement Architecture meetings an informative survey to better understand the current mood and trends among our contributors and users. https://survey.opensuse.org/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=277484 We'd appreciate if get feedback from as many contributors as possible. ps. If you feel that you're both project as well as distribution contributor simply pick what you currently focus most at. Thank you very much in advance Best regards Lubos Kocman openSUSE Leap Release Manager

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[oS-EN] Silly question re laptop hardware (that uses Linux)
by Carlos E. R. 26 Aug '23

26 Aug '23

Hi Some months ago I bought a laptop. I customized it. One of the options was memory card reader. My surprise was when it finally came, that it is a microSD slot. Do some one know of an adapter to plug an SDHC/SDXC card (normal sized) into a microSD slot? How is that thing named (if it exists)? I tried Amazon, no hits. Filtering in Amazon is terrible, anyway. I have o travel with a card reader, multiple formats, it is a big with cable. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.5 (Laicolasse))

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Apache problem or systemd?
by bent fender 24 Aug '23

24 Aug '23

I have a directory for a copy of my web site (browser pointing to 127.1.1.0) where I test material before uploading to a commercial Hosted DNS server. Haven't done any edits for a while but tried one today ..only to run into this: ------------------------------------------------------- # systemctl status apache2.service ● apache2.service - The Apache Webserver Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/apache2.service; disabled; ... preset: disabled) Aug 17 22:14:23 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Starting The Apache Webserver... Aug 17 22:14:23 localhost.localdomain start_apache2[6217]: AH00558: httpd-prefork: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using localhost.localdomain. Set the 'ServerName' directi> Aug 17 22:14:23 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Started The Apache Webserver. ------------------------------------------------------- Why would I need a "fully qualified domain name" under 127.0.0.1? ----------------------------------- Access forbidden! You don't have permission to access the requested directory. There is either no index document or the directory is read-protected. If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. Error 403 ------------------------------------ Lousy communications AGAIN, what directory? I requested 127.0.0.1 in my browser. BTW the entire tree to the directory is read-write by userMe, my primary group, and readable by all.

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At least some of the apparent belt-tightening is explained
by David C. Rankin 23 Aug '23

23 Aug '23

https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/18/suse_delisting/ I guess killing-off Leap is how SUSE plans to "deliver on our strategy with the new leadership team in place" -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Kudos to Devs on 15.5 and the sane decision for a 15.6!
by David C. Rankin 22 Aug '23

22 Aug '23

Just a shout-out to the SUSE/openSUSE devs for making 15.5 and a future 15.6 a reality. SUSE, then openSUSE, now something in between has always put out solid releases that provide user-choice to the greatest extent possible. User-choice has always been the corner-stone of Linux. While microOS Aeon and Kalpa may make sense for enterprise, it to a large extent eliminates user-choice in favor of the immutable OS craze of loop-mounted everything. A traditional release preserves the hard won community that openSUSE enjoys and 15.6 will just ensure that continues into the future. Good job devs! -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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cpanel clone for openSUSE?
by jdd＠dodin.org 22 Aug '23

22 Aug '23

Hello, I have a professional hosting provider (o2switch) for most web services and an other (pcloud) for mass (2Tb) cloud storage. That said, not all is provided by these operators, for example agenda, notes and other cloud services of nextcloud are not built in pcloud, nor any service needing extra port opening like INN usenet server. I may also need house management server. so why I also have my own openSUSE server, since as long as I can remember. For some reasons not meaningful here, I have now a new server built on my ISP box/nat/server hardware, with openSUSE Tumbleweed. Until now I managed my server myself with yast and the CLI (no graphical interface here), but I aging and beginning to be lazy :-( With O2switch I have a complete cpanel/softaculous system I like a lot. I also tested Yunohost, but not only it's Debian based but very difficult to manage for any software not initially included (INN, pmwiki...). Most of the Cpanel clones I know of are Debian or Redhat oriented (webmin, floxlor...). Do you know of any cpanel clone openSUSE friendly? thanks jdd -- c'est quoi, usenet? http://www.dodin.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Usenet.Usenet

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sudoers syntax
by jdd＠dodin.org 22 Aug '23

22 Aug '23

Hello, If I write in the sudoers file: jdd ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL I can use any root command from my jdd account (through ssh). I would like to be only able to use "sudo -i" and I can't my goal is to be able to go full root if necessary, but not execute any other command to prevent environment (and others) problem how can I achieve this thanks jdd -- c'est quoi, usenet? http://www.dodin.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Usenet.Usenet

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[oS-en] dovecot problem
by Carlos E. R. 20 Aug '23

20 Aug '23

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I notice this message (in my L15.5 laptop): 2023-08-13T14:05:41.043174+02:00 Laicolasse dovecot: imap(cer)<31114><85PAw8wCLJF/AAAB>: Error: fchown(/home/cer/Mail/.imap/INBOX, group=482(mail)) failed: Operation not permitted (egid=100(users), group based on /var/mail/cer - see http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Errors/ChgrpNoPerm) I read the link, but I don't understand what I should do. Change Group Operation Not Permitted imap(user): Error: chown(/home/user/mail/.imap/INBOX, group=12(mail)) failed: Operation not permitted (egid=1000(user), group based on /var/mail/user - see https://doc.dovecot.org/admin_manual/errors/chgrp_no_perm/) This means that Dovecot tried to copy /var/mail/user file’s group (mail) to the index file directory it was creating (/home/user/mail/.imap/INBOX), but the process didn’t belong to the mail group, so it failed. This is important for preserving access permissions with Shared mailboxes. Group copying is done only when it actually changes the access permissions; for example with 0600 or 0666 mode the group doesn’t matter at all, but with 0660 or 0640 it does. To solve this problem you can do only one of two things: * If the group doesn’t actually matter, change the permissions so that the group isn’t copied (e.g. chmod 0600 /var/mail/*, see Mbox Mailbox Format). * Give the mail process access to the group (e.g. mail_access_groups=mail setting). However, this is dangerous. It allows users with shell access to read other users’ INBOXes. I don't understand why I have to change the permissions of /var/mail/*. Why should dovecot copy the group? Just don't copy it. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCZNjLDxwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfVRDgAn3VMUDtPQTVYBZXtNOZH 9fxO34jUAJ9JehLPl4jEZIMunaMIoCf2N6PlqA== =q4i2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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XONAR STX-II sound card in Leap-15.5
by bent fender 20 Aug '23

20 Aug '23

I raised this here a while ago and received sympathy about an apparently problematic card as well as encouragment to do a bug report (which would be over my head). But I just took off into YastLand on a hunch and what do I find there if not a setup dialog. I'd been spoiled over the years by autodetection AND setup so it's now just back-to-the-ways-of-old with YAST, period. Works like a charm! Sidebar: I'm having a hsitload of issues with soundware ALL the time, see https://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?t=25728 A related question is "if I disable pulse does that truly and totally take it out of the equation until reboot"? How come the Pulse Audio Volume thingie continues breathing? Ref: "setup-pulseaudio --disable" TIA -- "The saddest sight, next to a battlefield lost, is a battlefield won" (actually: "Nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won".) Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington, in a dispatch from Waterloo, 1815.

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tumbleweed on box/nas
by jdd＠dodin.org 19 Aug '23

19 Aug '23

Hello, I use since some time a virtual machine running on my FAI box, acting like a nas. I would like to install a tumbleweed vm, but don't find the relevant file https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Cloud:/Images:/ only leap... I tried an ordinary iso, but I have problem (stops à hardware search) any idea? thanks jdd -- c'est quoi, usenet? http://www.dodin.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Usenet.Usenet

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Re: systemd-boot learns chicken-egg
by Robert Webb 17 Aug '23

17 Aug '23

[Subject was: systemd-boot support in Tumbleweed from thread in: openSUSE-Factory(a)opensuse.org] On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 16:53:24 +0200, Ludwig Nussel <ludwig.nussel(a)suse.de> wrote: > Hi! > For those who might be interested in using systemd-boot with btrfs > snapshots etc instead of grub, [...] > Here are instructions how to convert an existing system to use systemd-boot: > [...] Instead of the kernel starting systemd, systemd starts the kernel. Hehe. Systemd is dependent on my computer being plugged in to the power outlet and turned on, so it needs a power-on service and a self-plug-in service. -- Robert Webb

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[oS-EN] Thunderbird speller
by Carlos E. R. 17 Aug '23

17 Aug '23

Hi, If I enter the word whatsapp, it gets underlined in red. Right click on it, does not offer the correct spelling suggestion. However, if I correct it manually to WhatsApp, it is marked correct. The speller knows that WhatsApp is correct, but does not offer it. Why? This is a long standing bug, but I don't know if of Thunderbird or of the particular speller used in openSUSE Linux. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from Telcontar, using openSUSE Leap 15.4)

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Tumbleweed update question
by Roger Oberholtzer 16 Aug '23

16 Aug '23

I am looking to svn dup my Tumbleweed install. It is currently at 20230729. Aside from the usual Python3 messiness, I see that it wants to remove things like grubby and liblockdev1. At least grubby sounds like a tool that might be used somewhere setting up the system. Should I allow it to remove such things? -- Roger Oberholtzer

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leap 15.5 - has anyone successfully booted with root on NFS ?
by Per Jessen 13 Aug '23

13 Aug '23

I have just today dupped a 15.1 box to 15.5 - all went well, except it no longer boots. I have rebuilt the initrd a few times, and it keeps looking like the network is never set up after the kernel+initrd are loaded. I was just wondering if someone else might have tried this, with success? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (27.8°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes (2016 - present) We're hiring - https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Heroes

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rsync details
by jdd＠dodin.org 13 Aug '23

13 Aug '23

Hello, I try to use rsunc to make two folders in sync, one on local computer, the other on remote one. I use (from stackexchange) rsync -rv --delete -e ssh source/ destination but I get the same file list if I do this again. first run 2000-2009/2007/20070512-palace/Piste_01.mp3 2000-2009/2007/20070512-palace/Piste_02.mp3 2000-2009/2007/20070512-palace/Piste_03.mp3 and exact same for the second run. how can it be? thanks jdd -- c'est quoi, usenet? http://www.dodin.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Usenet.Usenet

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Tbird 115 on 15.4 - Write Message - Menu Autohide only 1/2 Hidden - Grating appearance changes
by David C. Rankin 11 Aug '23

11 Aug '23

All, Zypper up pulled in Thunderbird 115. It is horribly different from 102 and does not respect my color or theme choices that 102 did. Further, the interface is a bit buggy. The new-message window menu-autohide - doesn't completely hide the menu, you can see the bottom of all menu entries under the window titlebar: https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/8f0de87e7c53 What changed to radically to give tbird 115 such a different and unpleasant look? When I have tabs open in thunderbird, you can only see the active tab, all others are black-text on black-background ?? Is this libadwaita rearing its ugly head? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Problem with starting amavis after latest update of Tumbleweed
by Freek de Kruijf 11 Aug '23

11 Aug '23

After the latest update of Tumbleweed starting service amavis fails with the message: aug 11 10:24:02 eiktum systemd[1]: Starting Amavisd-new Virus Scanner interface... aug 11 10:24:02 eiktum amavis[7902]: Starting virus-scanner (amavisd-new): aug 11 10:24:02 eiktum amavis[7903]: Can't locate Amavis/Boot.pm in @INC (you may need to install the Amavis::Boot module) (@INC ent ries checked: /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.38.0/x86_64-linux-thread-multi /usr/ lib/perl5/site_perl/5.38.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5 .38.0/x86_64-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.38.0 /usr/lib/ perl5/5.38.0/x86_64-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.3 8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl) at /usr/sbin/amavisd line 99. aug 11 10:24:02 eiktum systemd[1]: amavis.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE aug 11 10:24:02 eiktum systemd[1]: amavis.service: Failed with result 'exit- code'. aug 11 10:24:02 eiktum systemd[1]: Failed to start Amavisd-new Virus Scanner interface. I found the module Amavis/Boot.pm in /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.36.0/ but a symbolic link did not solve the problem. Bug report: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1214182 -- fr.gr. member openSUSE Freek de Kruijf

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wkhtmltopdf issues in TW
by bent fender 10 Aug '23

10 Aug '23

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'regime-change' @ Leap-15.5
by bent fender 10 Aug '23

10 Aug '23

My previous 15.x and 15.y upgarded twice or more to 15.5 finally got to the point where it would recognize only that one of my two soundcards that wasn't plugged-in at the time. DON'T ask me hoe it did that!!! So I did a fresh install and am tweaking it. The card in use is a CMI8788 XONAR Essence STX-II. It gets recognised but there's this issue in the pulse Volume window: Input-Devices, port "whatever" selected, the slider remains DEAD. Since I use my compuker mostly for guitar sessions this is a no-go, my playing makes dogs howl but it risks getting better if I can't hear it

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Thunderbird search
by Carlos E. R. 10 Aug '23

10 Aug '23

Hi, I type in the "Quick Filter" the string "strange power" without quotes. Obviously I expect to find messages containing that string, but instead it kicks in on messages containing "strange" or "power". Doesn't make sense... Apparently one has to use quotes. But I save the draft of this message in the "inbox" folder, and it doesn't find it. It does find it in the "Drafts" folder. Then I request the search in a gmail inbox, and again it finds "strange" or "power", despite I writing "strange power" with quotes. 77 hits. But if I remove the quotes, then it finds 345 messages... I can't figure it out. Maybe it is using the imap server implementation of search, and gmail does things differently. How I am not surprised. However, I know that Thunderbird does search in the inbox folders of servers that I know do not implement server side search (gmx.es). Alpine does the correct search, and in this inbox finds only the message I copied there. However, Alpine on gmail finds 77 mails, and they are not "strange power". Seems to be "strange" and "power" but not "strange power" necessarily. Alpine does not cache the bodies of the messages, so I know that it is using the imap server search feature. Not directly related, but thinking the post I search for was in Usenet, I grepped my news spool (28G), an operation that took 4 or 6 hours, but failed to find the correct message. Maybe another string. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)

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CheckPoint SNX
by Roger Oberholtzer 10 Aug '23

10 Aug '23

Is anyone running the CheckPoint SNX client on openSUSE (e.g.Tumbleweed)? A remote user uses CheckPoint to provide VPN, and SNX seems to be the Linux client. I can start the program (a CLI program), but I cannot seem to make a connection. So I'm curious if it just does not work or if I need to plod on. Google gives mixed information. -- Roger Oberholtzer

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Firefox 115 - Why am I getting Tbird Ads in Firefox asking me to donate? Don't we patch that?
by David C. Rankin 10 Aug '23

10 Aug '23

Devs, For the first time I'm had a mozilla ad for thunderbird appear on firefox startup. I though we patched that and the version nag in our openSUSE version? Shouldn't that be disabled by patch for our distribution? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re: Thunderbird - Trash, sort by deleted date
by Carlos E. R. 09 Aug '23

09 Aug '23

On 2023-08-08 15:48, joe a wrote: > On 8/7/2023 2:20 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> On 2023-08-07 16:29, joe a wrote: >>> Anyone here using Thunderbird/Dovecote to sort Trash folder by >>> deleted date? >>> >>> I was astonished that does not seem to be the default. Do not find >>> the option to add "Date deleted". >>> >>> Asked on Mozilla/TB Support, which tells me that option is there, >>> under Settings, View, Sort by. also on dovecote, which has not >>> responded at all. >> >> You certainly can sort "written" date. Not by deleted date, that is >> not recorded. You could try by "arrival", which is actually >> "unsorted". Huh, no, TB can't not sort. >> >> Sort by written date, just click on the column header labeled "date". >> >> Oh, you can select what columns to display, and one is "order >> received". If you tick on that column, it should be the same as "date >> of delete". Alternatively, you could try the column "received". >> > > On further, minimal, revisit/thought, it would seem to be an IMAP > thing. a "Date Deleted" field (?) would need to be added/flagged/noted. > Casual sniffing has not shown such exists. At least garnered little > interest. Yes, it would need Thunderbird writing one extra header on the message itself with the timestamp of deletion. It is certainly possibly to add such a feature, AFAIK, if it has enough traction, but I'm not a dev. Only commenting by what I know of the format. Or, Thunderbird could write the information in the separate index file it keeps. I don't know how possible is this. > > Tried "Order Received" early on. It is only what appears to be an > ascending numeric value, indicating "arrival order". Yes. > > You leave me puzzled with "date of delete". That is exactly what I am > looking for and have not found. As mentioned earlier "Date" and > "Received" show identical values, which are not, "Date Deleted", but > more like "When Received" (more or less). > > I remain curious why there should be two available values, presumably > having different meanings, yet, are displayed as identical values. Not > knowing Dovecot and or IMAP beyond the "OK, got it working" level, > unsure of why that might be, but suspect a "bug". The Date of the Date column corresponds to the Date at time of writing the final copy of the email. It is up to the software that wrote the software. For example, your OP has: Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2023 10:29:28 -0400 Now, the "received" date I don't know for sure which it is. I guess it is the dat of the "last" received header, so it depends on the receiver. In that same message, it is: Received: from dovector04.e.movistar.es ([217.116.1.118]) by lda06.e.movistar.es (Dovecot) with LMTP id ...5w for <...(a)telefonica.net>; Mon, 07 Aug 2023 16:29:55 +0200 You can see there is a difference of seconds. But it could be some other "received" header. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)

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Firefox problems
by James Knott 08 Aug '23

08 Aug '23

This morning, I noticed a problem with Firefox, where pages won't load completely. It was working fine last night. The problem occurs on 2 different computers. I know there was an update a couple of days ago, but it worked fine until this morning. This is with both 115.1.0esr and 116.0. Chromium works fine. I'm running KDE on 15.4. tnx jk

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