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What does this mean? moving rpm-db failed?
by L A Walsh 24 Mar '21

24 Mar '21

The following package is going to be upgraded: rpm 1 package to upgrade. Overall download size: 1.6 MiB. Already cached: 0 B After the operation, additional 2.6 KiB will be used. Continue? [y/n/? shows all options] (y): Checking for file conflicts: .............................................[done] Retrieving package rpm-4.14.1-lp151.13.10.x86_64 (1/1), 1.6 MiB ( 4.6 MiB unpacked) (1/1) Installing: rpm-4.14.1-lp151.13.10 .................................[done] Additional rpm output: Updating /etc/sysconfig/services ... Output of rpm-4.14.1-lp151.13.10.x86_64.rpm %posttrans script: migrating rpmdb from /var/lib/rpm to /usr/lib/sysimage/rpm... mv: inter-device move failed: 'var/lib/rpm/alternatives' to 'usr/lib/sysimage/rpm/alternatives'; unable to remove target: Directory not empty rmdir: failed to remove 'var/lib/rpm': Directory not empty Warning: rpm-4.14.1-lp151.13.10.x86_64.rpm %posttrans script failed (returned 1) Problem occured during or after installation or removal of packages: Failed to cache rpm database (1). Please see the above error message for a hint. ---------------- Speaking of weird error messages Tried to install rpm from leap 15.1... Rats; yeah, have backups won't travel much...

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Replacement for KTrafficAnalyzer?
by Markus Egg 23 Mar '21

23 Mar '21

Hello, I was using KTrafficAnalyzer https://sourceforge.net/projects/ktrafficanalyze/ for quite a long time to get simple information about traffic. Now this is quite old and now it is missing as official package in OpenSuSE Leap 15.2 . Which official rpm can I take as replacement? It should be as simple as KTrafficAnalyzer, no sniffer, no Nagios, no rrdtool and alike, also no commandline tool. If I have to compile from source it is also ok (KTrafficAnalyzer is compilable but then fails to run). Thanks in advance Markus

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updating wpa_supplicant causes interruption of wireless network
by Per Jessen 23 Mar '21

23 Mar '21

In the last couple of days, $SUBJ has hit me twice, so I had to wonder if I could somehow prevent it? Hardware is a Nano Pi Neo Air, access is via ssh. first I patched a 15.2 Leap system, and when wpa_supplicant was updated, output over ssh just stops, although the process continues on the ARM board. (verified via a serial console). just now, I was running a zypper dup from 15.1 to 15.2, and the same thing happens. wpa_supplicant is installed, network is interrupted. Over the serial console, I can tell the wlan interface is down, which explains what happens. I don't always have the luxury of having a serial console attached, so updating could leave me with no access to the ARM board. I need to fix a few things after the zypper dup, so I need to retain the network access - any suggestions? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (3.8°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland.

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how do i auto shutdown when my desktop starts using ups
by givian1900＠gmail.com 23 Mar '21

23 Mar '21

is it possible to auto shut down my desktop as soon as my desktop starts using power from ups?

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Wicked and Systemd Dependencies
by Ansgar Esztermann-Kirchner 23 Mar '21

23 Mar '21

Hello List, I'm just wandering what the current status of wicked during system boot is. As far as I can tell, the network.service unit completes immediately (or after a configurable delay), whether or not network devices have completed their setup. This means that if we want to mount e.g. /usr/local from NFS, we cannot rely on systemd's dependencies. Is this a misconfiguration on my part? Resorting to an arbitrary timeout feels quite clunky. Thanks, A. -- Ansgar Esztermann Sysadmin Dep. Theoretical and Computational Biophysics http://www.mpibpc.mpg.de/grubmueller/esztermann

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Re: Firewall configuration, confused.
by Cameron Cumberland 19 Mar '21

19 Mar '21

It sounds a little like it might be that Network-Manager is configuring things in “User” mode (rather than “System”). https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/reference/html/book-opensuse-re… (SECTION 28.4.1) This forum has the same question as you, but no satisfactory answers that I found: https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/513386-Wireless-network-specific… YaST, to my knowledge, does not have an way to manage per-SSID profiles. But: you can use NM to set various SSIDs into different profiles (i.e. “Cafe”). My thinking runs like this: 1) Use YaST to set up 2 profiles: “Home” and “Cafe” (for example) with permissions set as you want 2) Using NM (as “system”) assign the Wifi@Home to “Home” and other SSIDs/networks to “Cafe” I had to do very nearly the same thing to get SSH working on ethernet for a machine but NOT on Wifi (albeit on the same network). Cameron > On Mar 18, 2021, at 16:17, James Knott <james.knott(a)jknott.net> wrote: > > On 2021-03-18 4:11 p.m., Cameron Cumberland wrote: >> If you set the zone via YaST, do changes persist across reboots? I am aware there are some difficulties between Network-Manager and YaST system (and a host of/different/ issues with Wicked), but am not incredibly well versed on the internal functions of either. >> >> I tend to shy away from the Network-Manager GUI for configuring anything deeper than “Wifi On/Off", as it feels buggy in my experience and is prone to interesting visual quirks. > > At the moment, I'm focused on why the firewall isn't running. > > Here's what the details show: > > firewalld.service - firewalld - dynamic firewall daemon > > Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/firewalld.service; enabled; vendor preset: disabled) > > Active: inactive (dead) > > Docs: man:firewalld(1) > > Is it possible to assign a zone to SSID in Yast?

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-lang packages
by Michael Spartana 17 Mar '21

17 Mar '21

Hi, Is there a way to tell zypper not to fetch -lang packages? Just deleted them all and really don't want to do it again.

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mariadb startup problem
by Dave Howorth 17 Mar '21

17 Mar '21

We've had several power cuts here over the past couple of days (grrr!!!) One consequence has been that I now find that mariadb won't start. Here's the status: # systemctl status mariadb ● mariadb.service - MySQL server Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/mariadb.service; enabled; vendor preset: disabled) Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Wed 2021-03-17 14:30:20 GMT; 1min 34s ago Main PID: 1651 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) Mar 17 14:30:26 acer-suse mysql-systemd-helper[1629]: [103B blob data] Mar 17 14:30:26 acer-suse mysql-systemd-helper[1629]: Fatal error in defaults handling. Program aborted Mar 17 14:30:26 acer-suse mysql-systemd-helper[1651]: [103B blob data] Mar 17 14:30:26 acer-suse mysql-systemd-helper[1651]: Fatal error in defaults handling. Program aborted Mar 17 14:30:26 acer-suse mysql-systemd-helper[1651]: [93B blob data] Mar 17 14:30:26 acer-suse mysql-systemd-helper[1651]: Fatal error in defaults handling. Program aborted Mar 17 14:30:20 acer-suse systemd[1]: mariadb.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE Mar 17 14:30:20 acer-suse systemd[1]: Failed to start MySQL server. Mar 17 14:30:20 acer-suse systemd[1]: mariadb.service: Unit entered failed state. Mar 17 14:30:20 acer-suse systemd[1]: mariadb.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. The messages seem to be pretty unhelpful and I don't understand how to proceed. They don't give me any clue how to proceed. Does anybody have any suggestions?

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Strange or unexpected disk activity after issuing "sync".
by Carlos E. R. 16 Mar '21

16 Mar '21

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Doing experiments while investigating a problem, I noticed that the command "sync", which flushes disk caches from memory to disk, took long (minutes?) to sync. But wait. I also noticed looking at "atop", that one disk, and one disk only of the five I have, goes 100% busy at that point (sdc) And then I noticed, running gkrellm with one chart per partition of that disk that it is only one partition which is writing a lot of stuff, slowly at about 250 KBps, for a time that can be half a minute or probably minutes (I'm still investigating). What is that partition? Well, for one thing it is the only reiserfs partition I still have: fstab entries: LABEL=c_data_reiser /data/Lareiserfs reiserfs acl,user_xattr,barrier=flush,lazytime 1 3 /data/Lareiserfs/var_spool_news /var/spool/news none bind 0 0 And for another, it contains "/var/spool/news", which is used by my nntp news proxy "leafnode". My guess is that the partition delays writing of stuff to the disk for perhaps hours. The news store contains more than a million of small files in 3 GiB, one file per message. And very scattered. Could "lazytime" be involved in this behavior? - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCYFCnvBwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfVGfAAoICgtJ9AfaTRmxFq5Vjb RcNnQg6qAJwNQMHLPGWeljXlIECpjR3qfxCe5w== =VJ0e -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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root filling up
by Carl Spitzer {L Juno} 16 Mar '21

16 Mar '21

this DV6000 is running 11.4 as it only holds 2gig memory. root is filling up there was once 4gig free now down to 1.5 gig end of last year and now only 1.3 gig. Where do I look for the problem?? ls -l / total 124 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Aug 3 2015 bin drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 13 2015 boot drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Feb 27 2011 CD1 drwxr-xr-x 19 root root 4200 Mar 9 16:17 dev drwxr-xr-x 143 root root 12288 Mar 11 19:18 etc drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 128 Sep 15 2017 home drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 12288 Aug 1 2017 lib drwx------ 2 root root 16384 Aug 2 2012 lost+found drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Mar 9 16:18 media drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 18 2011 mnt drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Sep 28 2014 opt dr-xr-xr-x 173 root root 0 Mar 9 08:15 proc drwx------ 44 root root 4096 Mar 11 19:48 root drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 12288 Aug 1 2017 sbin drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 18 2011 selinux drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Sep 28 2014 srv drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 0 Mar 9 16:15 sys drwxrwxrwt 45 root root 24576 Mar 11 19:45 tmp drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4096 Mar 2 2011 usr drwxr-xr-x 17 root root 4096 Sep 29 2014 var CWSIV ____________________________________________________________ Sponsored by https://www.newser.com/?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_tag… City Nears First Reparations http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/604ae65685cfe6656664bst02vuc1 New Cuomo Accusation Referred to Police http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/604ae656a9e9a6656664bst02vuc2 A JPG File Just Sold for $69M http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/604ae656cd19b6656664bst02vuc3

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systemd-udev-settle.service
by Wolfgang Rosenauer 16 Mar '21

16 Mar '21

Hi, what is $SUBJECT doing and how to debug that in more detail? On one of my systems it takes 1min 4.209s systemd-udev-settle.service at boot time which is a bit annoying. That is on TW latest on a pretty common Intel system (i5-4570, 16GB RAM, SSD) Any hints? Thanks, Wolfgang

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new Thunderbird, how do I change a recipient from 'cc' to 'to' ?
by Per Jessen 16 Mar '21

16 Mar '21

I guess I got a new Thunderbird with the latest Leap 15.2 updates? from 68 to 78 ? I know it sounds stupid, but I simply cannot figure out how to change a recipient from 'cc' to 'to' (or vice versa). In the previous TB, there was a pull-down menu, that seems to have gone away. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (5.6°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland.

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Broken alt-f2 (run command) on XFCE
by Carlos E. R. 15 Mar '21

15 Mar '21

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, When I press alt-f2, the dialog opens always in the last workspace, not the current one. And it is done by: 0:00 kdeinit5: Running... 0:02 \_ /usr/lib64/libexec/kf5/klauncher --fd=8 0:11 \_ /usr/bin/krunner instead of the XFCE tool. If I kill them killall kdeinit5 klauncher krunner and use alt-f2, they restart and the window pops up in the last workspace. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCYE+lkRwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfVq/MAnR1b3Y6Mv+3szqr4h4ys z+gMgMQMAJ4q6j19mRj0lPWiZMNevQV5FDL4bg== =WTa9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Possible malware?
by James Knott 15 Mar '21

15 Mar '21

Today, I noticed my computer performance was very poor. Top showed something called .dhcpd running under user test and using almost 400% of my CPU. In ~/test, I found an executable .dhcpd. I have not used the test account for a long time. That .dhcpd also survived a reboot, so I'll have to determine how it's starting. Here is some info: linux:~ # ps aux|grep test test 3887 0.0 0.0 72236 7956 ? Ss 09:02 0:00 /usr/lib/systemd/systemd --user test 3888 0.0 0.0 265004 3220 ? S 09:02 0:00 (sd-pam) test 3909 416 7.3 2439200 2401880 ? SNsl 09:02 5:35 /home/test/.dhpcd root 5532 0.0 0.0 7432 920 pts/2 S+ 09:03 0:00 grep --color=auto test linux:~ # cd ~test linux:/home/test # ls .Xauthority .config .emacs .gtkrc-2.0 .local .profile .xinitrc.template Downloads Templates .bash_history .dbus .esd_auth .i18n .mozilla .qt .xsession-errors-:1 Music Videos .bashrc .dhpcd .fonts .inputrc .nx .ssh Desktop Pictures bin .cache .dmrc .gnupg .kde4 .pki .xim.template Documents Public public_html linux:/home/test # ls -l .dhpcd -rwxr-xr-x 1 test users 3458848 Mar 1 18:38 .dhpcd linux:/home/test # kill -9 3909 linux:/home/test # ps aux|grep test root 7884 0.0 0.0 7432 820 pts/2 S+ 09:06 0:00 grep --color=auto test linux:/home/test # more .dhpcd ******** .dhpcd: Not a text file ******** linux:/home/test # ls -a .dhpcd .dhpcd linux:/home/test # ls -al .dhpcd -rwxr-xr-x 1 test users 3458848 Mar 1 18:38 .dhpcd linux:/home/test # There were some updates yesterday, so I wonder if one of them is infected with something. Also, this computer is configured with a static IPv4 address and uses SLAAC on IPv6, so it shouldn't be using dhcpd.

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USB microphone buttons
by Ciro Iriarte 14 Mar '21

14 Mar '21

Hello!, Well, 2 years ago I couldn't care less about this topic, now it's a day to day thing and details matter for user experience. In my work laptop using Windows + Logitech headset, I can toggle mute of the mic using the built-in hardware button, and that is reflected on the videocall apps immediately (Zoom, MS Teams). Now, on my personal computer with a Razer Seiren X (USB microphone) and openSUSE Leap 15.2, I'm trying to achieve the same (the mic has a hardware mute button), hardware mute works but it's independent from the software mute button in Zoom or Google Meet, so you get the annoying double mute problem. I would like to achieve a single mute feature (hardware toggle is reflected in hardware & software, and software toggle is reflected in hardware & software, similar to the Logitech headset scenario). Is that something anybody in the list has already achieve?, is that an UDEV rule thing?, is that more a hardware driver thing?. Any hints are more than welcome. Regards, -- Ciro Iriarte http://iriarte.it --

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Leap 15.0
by Terry Eck 14 Mar '21

14 Mar '21

Has Leap 15.0 reached end of life and no longer updateable? Thanks, Terry

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ispconfig
by jdd＠dodin.org 13 Mar '21

13 Mar '21

Hello, I have to build a new server (in my home, old laptop with fiber line, 256Gb ssd and 8Gb ram), to host a INN usenet instance. I try to make administration the lighter I can, and wonder if I can use ispconfig, the last tutorial with opensuse is pretty old: https://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-opensuse-12.1-x86_64-with-nginx-i… I'm not completely new with INN, some years ago I already installed one. May be ispconfig is overkill? Also, what is the recommended distribution? I can install directly Leap 15.3, I guess it is now nearly done, but what about microOS? https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:MicroOS I may appreciate to have a minimum grahical system (xfce, icewm...) any hint? thanks jdd -- http://dodin.org

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15.2 KDE & DNS selection
by James Knott 13 Mar '21

13 Mar '21

I have two systems here, my desktop, which uses wicked for network configuration and my notebook, which uses network manager. My DHCP server (pfsense) hands out 172.16.0.1 & 8.8.8.8 and RDNSS is used to provide an IPv6 DNS address. Wicked is configured to use 172.16.0.1 & 8.8.8.8, relying on RDNSS for the IPv6 DNS address. On my desktop, resolv.conf lists both IPv4 and IPv6 DNS addresses, but my notebook only gets the IPv4 addresses. It appears wicked accepts the RDNSS info, but network manager doesn't. In network manager, on both IPv4 and IPv6 tabs, Automatic is selected. Is there some other option for RDNSS? tnx jk

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Any net-install ISO for 15.3? What is a Media.iso?
by David C. Rankin 13 Mar '21

13 Mar '21

All, Looking at the 15.3 repo and there are a ****load of iso's there. One for every architecture under the sun (cool), but I don't find my old friend the net-install iso. (not there because not official yet?) Or does it go by a new name now. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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root filling up
by Carl Spitzer {L Juno} 12 Mar '21

12 Mar '21

this DV6000 is running 11.4 as it only holds 2gig memory. root is filling up there was once 4gig free now down to 1.5 gig end of last year and now only 1.3 gig. Where do I look for the problem?? ls -l / total 124 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Aug 3 2015 bin drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 13 2015 boot drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Feb 27 2011 CD1 drwxr-xr-x 19 root root 4200 Mar 9 16:17 dev drwxr-xr-x 143 root root 12288 Mar 11 19:18 etc drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 128 Sep 15 2017 home drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 12288 Aug 1 2017 lib drwx------ 2 root root 16384 Aug 2 2012 lost+found drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Mar 9 16:18 media drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 18 2011 mnt drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Sep 28 2014 opt dr-xr-xr-x 173 root root 0 Mar 9 08:15 proc drwx------ 44 root root 4096 Mar 11 19:48 root drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 12288 Aug 1 2017 sbin drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 18 2011 selinux drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Sep 28 2014 srv drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 0 Mar 9 16:15 sys drwxrwxrwt 45 root root 24576 Mar 11 19:45 tmp drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4096 Mar 2 2011 usr drwxr-xr-x 17 root root 4096 Sep 29 2014 var CWSIV ____________________________________________________________ Sponsored by https://www.newser.com/?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_tag… George Floyd's Family Settles With City for Record Sum http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/604bf2575e7e872560bb1st04vuc1 Cuomo Just Lost Support of a Pivotal Group http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/604bf25782b5f72560bb1st04vuc2 Police Were Alerted to Suspect Days Before Sarah Everard Died http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/604bf257a605972560bb1st04vuc3

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Sharing same /home/<user> directory
by Frans de Boer 11 Mar '21

11 Mar '21

LS, Has anyone experience with using a shared home directory while using different versions of OpenSuse (Leap and TW)? After all, having a working TW is great, but sometimes you need a fallback, for which I use one of the Leap15.x versions. I already use the same directories for Firefox and Thunderbird and as long as the versions under the various OpenSuse versions do not differ to much from each other, it works. The above approach is to avoid setting-up filters and other parameters each time there is a new version. However, I do notice some differences under - for instance - Ksysguard. Representing correct voltages (.sgrd file is always reset) is not working under Leap 15.1, 15.2. So, for those instances I needed to adjust the startup sequence to keep a working display under TW. So, maybe there are more issues, of which I am currently not aware? Regards, Frans. -- A: Yes, just like that A: Ja, net zo Q: Oh, Just like reading a book backwards Q: Oh, net als een boek achterstevoren lezen A: Because it upsets the natural flow of a story A: Omdat het de natuurlijke gang uit het verhaal haalt Q: Why is top-posting annoying? Q: Waarom is Top-posting zo irritant?

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Update from Leap 15.0 to 15.2
by Terry Eck 11 Mar '21

11 Mar '21

Is it possible to do an update (without complete reinstall)? Thanks, Terry Eck

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15.3 boot problem
by Mark Misulich 11 Mar '21

11 Mar '21

Hi, I'm having trouble getting a 15.3 installation to boot properly. I've tried it two different ways on two installation locations on the hard drive, and it has failed to boot either time. The installation is with KDE desktop environment in both cases. I'll just detail the first case in this thread, and when it gets fixed I'll diferentiate it from the second case and tackle it to get it working too. I installed 15.3 from a dvd iso that I downloaded and used Suse Studio Imagewriter to write it to a USB stick. I haven't had a problem installing the image to the hard drive, but when I have finished and try to start the new installation from the hard drive, it doesn't boot properly. I installed / to one partition, /home to another partition, and /boot to another small partition. All of the installation partitions are ext4. The bios is set to bios boot (legacy). The boot loader is Grub2 and the master boot record is on /dev/sda. I have several other installed and working linux operating systems in this way and Grub 2 recognizes all of them and they boot normally (including an operating 15.2 system on this computer; I'm using it to write this thread). But I haven't had to include a separate /boot partition in the past on any of the other distros that I have installed previously. When I try to boot the 15.3 system, it boots up to terminal. I am able to log in as user, then to try to get the graphical system up I have typed tried several methods that I researched in the forum or otherwise online, but the only one that works is "sudo startx". After typing in the root password, the graphical desktop environment starts (KDE), but it starts in the wrong resolution. It comes up in 640x480 resolution, and there is no graphical selection to change it to the screen's native resolution of 1366x768 in System Settings>Display configuration. I thank you in advance for your input to correct what I'm doing wrong, and allow me to fix this issue. Mark

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Supported way, ala 'zypper dup' not working...what does it need?
by L A Walsh 10 Mar '21

10 Mar '21

On 2021/02/23 01:46, Simon Lees wrote: > On 2/23/21 5:31 PM, L A Walsh wrote: > >> Simon Lees wrote: >> >>> http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.0/repo/oss/x86_64/rpm-4.1… >>> >> --- >> >> Another FWIW, I working on my download script being workable >> with leap-15.0 .... >> > > Well the supported way to update a system is `zypper dup` we will make > sure that works there should rarely be a need for an openSUSE user to > call rpm directly, especially when installing / removing / upgrading > packages. > ---- Well, having pulled down that repo and the files in oss/repodata (repomd.xml, primary.xml, et al) I pointed zypper's "add-repo" with the "--check" flag at the 'repo', but it seems to be missing something: > sudo zypper up Error building the cache: [Leap15.0_OSS|file:/home/cache/suse/distribution/leap/15.0/repo/oss] Valid metadata not found at specified URL Warning: Skipping repository 'Leap15.0_OSS' because of the above error. Error building the cache: [Leap15.0_oss_src|file:/home/cache/suse/source/distribution/leap/15.0/repo/oss/] Valid metadata not found at specified URL Warning: Skipping repository 'Leap15.0_oss_src' because of the above error. Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Nothing to do. ====== I tried tracing zypper's actions, but don't see any attempt to open any files (or any failures associated with such): # strace -ff -e open zypper up |& more strace: Process 72710 attached [pid 72710] +++ exited with 0 +++ --- SIGCHLD {si_signo=SIGCHLD, si_code=CLD_EXITED, si_pid=72710, si_uid=0, si_status=0, si_utime=1, si_stime=0} --- strace: Process 72711 attached strace: Process 72712 attached [pid 72712] +++ exited with 0 +++ [pid 72711] --- SIGCHLD {si_signo=SIGCHLD, si_code=CLD_EXITED, si_pid=72712, si_uid=0, si_status=0, si_utime=56, si_stime=16} --- [pid 72711] +++ exited with 0 +++ --- SIGCHLD {si_signo=SIGCHLD, si_code=CLD_EXITED, si_pid=72711, si_uid=0, si_status=0, si_utime=0, si_stime=0} --- Error building the cache: [Leap15.0_OSS|file:/home/cache/suse/distribution/leap/15.0/repo/oss] Valid metadata not found at specified URL Warning: Skipping repository 'Leap15.0_OSS' because of the above error. Error building the cache: [Leap15.0_oss_src|file:/home/cache/suse/source/distribution/leap/15.0/repo/oss/] Valid metadata not found at specified URL Warning: Skipping repository 'Leap15.0_oss_src' because of the above error. Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Nothing to do. +++ exited with 0 +++ ---- What files is zypper trying to find that are missing? It doesn't seem to be trying to open any files (!!?)...I'm not sure why strace isn't showing any open file attempts, though I admit to being a novice on using the "-e open" switch to limit filtering to open calls. Still any idea what files it might be wanting? It's not very specific... Thanks...

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How do you handle high utimes with patches coming in, replacing libraries and gui parts - odd highlevel application behaviors
by cagsm 10 Mar '21

10 Mar '21

Hi there all hello list dwellers, i am not very fluent on the gui side of opensuse. When using current opensuse 15.2 systems but also in the years before, every now and then some test machine, simple standard kde gui level opensuse installation, no fancy setups. having such a machine on and up a long time, a kde user logged in, the screen locked, e.g. simple kde desktop gui application itself (dunno whats it even called or concepts for sure, think: this plasma desktop and whatever), eventually this kind of a system become erratic on its gui side of things. revisiting such a machinery, unlocking the desktop shows mess e.g. in a left open firefox gui, tabs becoming unklickable unchangeable, for example mething i remember a situation (dont really take my word for this everything as 100% but you get the idea, roughly ballpark, anyways continue the story) that i could still surf and use that one tab of that fricken firefox, but pretty much everything of it in the sense of frames, borders, resizing, moving around or its menues and elements that (my understanding of it, over the somewhat lengthy experience i myself had in the unix world, all about window managers, gui layers of the linux universe and such stuff) are triggering the operating system layers and libraries.... so these libariers might get exchanged and replaced by up- and in-coming opensuse patches, they get applied so far so fine. I always admired the unix world for being kind of able to overwrite and replace of nearly almost everything in its way in some still working healthy stable ways. in stark contrast to the windows world. so anyhow, these recent years i work myself the gui parts of linux a bit, and i kind of see (or guess) the downsize of all this. so these high level applications such as the desktop plasma application itself and the firefoxen for example, become erratic, only parts of them staying up working, the rest refusing their parts of work. during such times, only a restart of a mal functioning firefox helped, or even a restart of the display.service via systemctl, or even a reboot of a whole machine if that hadnt helped. i figured that it was some very deep down libraries or when kernel updates itself become applied, i think kernel packages also bring in files where some select externalized drivers reside and so on. So simple question is, how do other gui opensuse users live with this. How do you have a nice and incomplicated life where your desktop machine just continues to work. Recently whenever resorting to opensuse, I sometimes think, I reboot the opensuse at a higher frequency than some average windows machine (just kidding, no seriously, you like reboot windows at least once a month when the nightmare microsoft update day finally has arrived or you forced or lulled yourself into allowing yourself to go down that path). Anyone experience same erratics every now and then with high long uptime opensuse machines with gui usage? Is this a know behavior of opensuse, or am I doing it wrong? If the stuff is normal, can one resort to some replace-in-use-files in a different manner, that might avoid such behavior of the high level apps? After reboots and restarts of the various possible layers of the opensuse system, stuff comes back working normally. I observe this type of incidents with the gui opensuse machine, when I forget coming back to it for a number of weeks. Mostly I am still able to work around the little mess with it, sometimes I end up needing to reboot the machine in the end after all. Thanks for your insights on this matter on how you lead a long uptime and happy life with your gui opensuse system. TY.

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