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[opensuse] Leap on Lenovo 201 - failure to start any x session
by stakanov＠freenet.de 28 Dec '15

28 Dec '15

I tried to install Leap on a Lenovo X201, all updates during install. Results so far: if you password protect grub, it works but the unlocking in order to access a "failsafe setting" does not work. If you take of the passwordprotection of grub then then you find out that a failsafe session has simply not been set up. So I will have to do that by hand and since it does not seem that it accepts boot parameters in grub I will have to put them into yast. If somebody knows the settings for a X201 it would be nice to tell me. Login: encrypted lvm works, the boot runs without error up to when sddm should start the session but: if autologin is off: just promt, no sddm screen if autologin is on: tty1 with login , no graphical desktop. user can login via cli, but no x. loging in to preexisting accounts shows normal file structure and content, so not a problem of the hdd or filesystem. Login in a new user shows /bin and just one more fiel (which is normal, the xsession of that user never started. How can I find out why the xsession does not start. I get no error message what so ever. I checked in /etc/sddm.conf and minj VT is set correctly for VT7. dmesg gives no help, no errors journalctl no errors Any way to find out why plasma 5 does not start at all? It would be nice to have at least an error message. BTW: the graphics and mask for the encrypted lvm are displayed normal. So the intel graphics and settings are sensed correctly. At least during boot. --- Alle Postfächer an einem Ort. Jetzt wechseln und E-Mail-Adresse mitnehmen! http://email.freenet.de/basic/Informationen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] boot AMD RAID
by Xen 28 Dec '15

28 Dec '15

Has anyone successfully installed and booted from a system on an AMD RAID? I wonder if more is needed is ensuring that "dmraid -ay" is called in the initrd, since the 13.2 installer recognises the arrays. This is the firmware RAID that people derogatively call "fake raid". On my first attempt, the system did install, but it failed to boot properly; I forgot which error I got. Regards, Xen. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] vine videos on 13.2 / firefox 43
by listreader 28 Dec '15

28 Dec '15

Howdy... Yes, seems I have been whining a lot this week... Vine videos don't play on my 13.2 install with firefox 43 (opensuse version) unless I manually go and disable the "OpenH264 Video Codec provided by Cisco Systems, Inc. 1.5.1" plugin that is auto-installed. Since I have the flash plugin set as "ask-to-activate", I then also have to click again to allow the vine video to actually run with flash. Disabling / re-enabling process is annoying and there is no "ask-to-activate" option for the OpenH264 plugin. What is the result if I leave this plugin permanently disabled? Will all html5 stuff now fail? Is there that much html5-only stuff out there at this point in time that I will now have to reverse that disable / enable process each time I want to view those? How does everyone else deal with this annoyance? Or, am I even understanding the problem correctly? Thanks. Ralph -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Problems with upgrade to LEAP
by don fisher 27 Dec '15

27 Dec '15

I am using wicked in Leap 42.1. When I execute wicked show config all I get: lo up link: #1, state up type: loopback config: compat:suse:/etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-lo leases: ipv4 static granted leases: ipv6 static granted addr: ipv4 127.0.0.1/8 [static] addr: ipv6 ::1/128 [static] eth1 device-unconfigured link: #2, state down, mtu 1500 type: ethernet, hwaddr 00:19:b9:85:2c:bb wlan1 device-unconfigured link: #3, state down, mtu 1500 type: wireless When I go to the Yast network settings, it does not give me any option for the devices as in 13.2 If I execute the lsmod command, both the b44 and ssd modules are loaded as expected. It I edit the device under yast and tell it to use b44, and then return the field is blank again. if I wicked ifreload all eth0 no-device wlan0 no-device even though the modules are loaded. grub also appears to have become confused. On boot there is a message that says it is trying to boot by UUID and I get a 1.5 minute timeout while it tries. It is eventually successful. That message does not appear is my dmesg listing, but I do get the following message: Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.1.13-5-default root=UUID=67655536-6308-45bb-a4d4-3ce065e5e1f3 video=1920x1200@60 processor.ignore_ppc=1 resume=/dev/disk/by-uuid/486575f8-5169-44e7-ba5b-8268e2a7bfb8 splash=silent quiet showopts Should I just run grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg to make a new one, or is something else going on? Thanks don -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] bugzilla wtf
by listreader 27 Dec '15

27 Dec '15

Howdy... I have been trying to file a bug (see thread with title: 13.2 LUKS boot problem). I get the form, fill it out, but am unable to submit because everything continually times out with Bad Gateway. WTF? http://paste.opensuse.org/images/97876747.jpg Ralph -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] ban impact
by Ruben Safir 27 Dec '15

27 Dec '15

Or we can remove this list from the board. Or we can move to a better distro, like Arch and my personal favorite these days, Manjaro without systemd On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 05:11:31AM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 2015-12-27 01:40, Felix Miata wrote: > > Ruben Safir composed on 2015-12-26 19:18 (UTC-0500): > > > >> you think that he sits with baited bredth reading posts on the > >> website to email users privately? > > > > No. He does it same as before, as they come into his emailbox. He > > only needs click on a different reply button than before, and the > > results don't get peer reviewed or archived. > > Well, it is not the same... I reply to few threads, privately. I have > to wait to see if somebody else replies first. Then I have to collect > the addresses of those people, and concoct a very careful reply... it > takes more time. And I forget interested people. > > And maybe it does not reach some of the appropriate people, and there > is no peer review of what I say. > > > And it is heavy because my soul is heavy, with anger at the injustice. > I am on the second tranquilizer pill today, and another yesterday, in > order to be able to read Richard lies again. > > - -- > Cheers / Saludos, > > Carlos E. R. > > (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) > > iF4EAREIAAYFAlZ/ZPMACgkQja8UbcUWM1xV2gEAgXfDtv8IVu5vgY1iA8efYUFr > ImizG8DGAdNlhvNzrrYA/0DystCrJhm7vCIx8tr0XO2io3oi/iZl1RDl0uWjxpMP > =HOKs > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] The Post that got Carlos ER Banded !!
by Ruben Safir 27 Dec '15

27 Dec '15

On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 05:37:53AM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 2015-12-27 00:38, Ruben Safir wrote: > > > The question at this point should be, if we create a new mailing > > list for opensuse tech support, would you be willing to moderate > > the list and contribute as usual. If so, I think I can find a home > > for a new OpenSuSE tech support list. > > No, sorry, I can not moderate a list. I don't have those skills. > > And alternative mail list is an idea I had, but it would break up the > community more. > At this point it doesn't make much of a difference for several reasons. Primarily opensuse is slowly dieing, which is why SuSE announced not long ago that they were going to move away from the desktop and put more emphasis in "enterprise" systems. I don't know, I'm not a business maven, but I do know that the where SuSE has succeeded like no other distro was making a truly kitchen sink and integrated desktop. And I don't think they ever leveraged it. Even going back to the Novel take over when they come to NYC, they all but killed ximian, and had no clue as to what X11 was and how it could be leveraged. Everyone just surrendered this area to Microsoft, when everyone knew Microsofts products sucked and wasn't even enterprise ready. The list has dropped from several thousand posts a month, to a few hundred. usenet is all but dead. NOTHING fragmented the community like systemd. Moderating a list is a lot easier than people think. Mostly, just do nothing. It is an illusion that you have to hold peoples hands in order to have working conversation. The real issue is if you can get talent to support a list with real tech support. I can't do that. I wish I could. I even went back to school at age 52 in order to improve that, but I still can't. What will attack traffic is good answers, and visability on the infowebs. It is up to you Carlos. Ruben > - -- > Cheers / Saludos, > > Carlos E. R. > > (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) > > iF4EAREIAAYFAlZ/ayEACgkQja8UbcUWM1xX8QD/UnlkTMRuiUwM9Xf+RWcX/2XU > kZ7KpiLHQPJffDJILGgA/iqywxIDDcMhvoIruPl0uhketPbGpnYrorn9xll1PHq8 > =twB+ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Re: Moderation on mailing list
by Ruben Safir 27 Dec '15

27 Dec '15

the whole thing is stupid and details aren't important. Even a rational person who is annoyed wouldn't excersize his power like this. He might ban you for a week from the factory list, but this is over the top and blatantly facist. Very European, I might add. Take it to a commitee and make a broad sweeping abusive action. Ruben On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 06:21:18AM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 2015-12-25 23:26, jdd wrote: > > Le 25/12/2015 22:35, Michal Hrusecky a écrit : > > > >> World where people like to listen to arguments and address > >> problems in a > > > > I could never see any post in witch Carlos have been disruptive. > > He himself say there was one and he apologies. > > Notice that Richard consider disruptive technical discussions in which > people do not agree with him on technical grounds. > > Specially on "his" lists. > > The one really bad was intended as a private mail that went public by > mistake, while I was drinking a coctail with Vodka. Not that I was > drunk even close, just "happy". > > > but may these mails where removed from archives? > > No. > > > if not, give a link, please, thanks > > Richard made a list, and I replied in another post which other people > have forwarded to the maillist, in another of these broken threads :-) > > > - -- > Cheers / Saludos, > > Carlos E. R. > > (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) > > iF4EAREIAAYFAlZ/dU4ACgkQja8UbcUWM1ylgAD8CjqArNOvWjMQxkA6Ckcr6CQp > Z0DxU+cH6HKGctzd7k0A+wQcH6ZlJYQz/bsi9OsZPDtbMSlDttygN9Wy6ywnyF2f > =bVj6 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] The community demands for Richard Brown to resign Now
by Ruben Safir 27 Dec '15

27 Dec '15

The community demands for Richard Brown to resign Now for their censorship of Carlos ER and their refusal to recognize the grievous error they made. Their actions and explanations reflect the most terrible abuses that any FLOSS group can abuse its users with and therefore the must STEP DOWN NOW. Ruben -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] On forum mods
by Ruben Safir 27 Dec '15

27 Dec '15

On 12/27/2015 12:23 AM, Xen wrote: > Carlos E. R. schreef op 27-12-2015 3:18: > >> On 2015-12-27 00:04, Xen wrote: >>> I do feel it is inappropriate forwarding the mail to the list, to >>> circumvent the ban. >> >> Sorry. >> It is also inappropriate to accuse one person of things (what RB is >> doing to me now), if I'm unable to defend myself and refute his >> points. Other people here, no matter how well meaning, don't know the >> facts and can't refute him. > > I know, but patience. Circumventing the ban will be held against you. > Sometimes you just have to 'suffer ill fortune'. > > I guess in the end everything would be revealed, but it might take a > while :(. > > Trust me, I have very unfair treatment going against my own person but > you still have to play by the rules (of human conduct, so to speak) to win. > There is no historical evidence for that, whatsoever. > The rules of the game are set. Life is about discovering them and then > not violating them ;-). If you play by the rules, you win ;-). > Eventually, at least. > > >> >> One more thing. >> Ruben and all, >> >> I appreciate your understanding. But one request: please moderate your >> language :-)) > > > But letting your feelings out can also feel very good ;-). Particularly > when another does it. > > I mean you are right and I'm still not clear on everything. And I often > land myself in a lot of trouble by using hard language. > > But I have found no alternative as of now for myself. Maybe it is > because I'm young and uncontested ;-). > > Overall I feel little regret in having used these words, but I do regret > the outcomes. > > And sometimes the same word, uttered without negative aggression, can > have a very positive impact, immediately. > > Politely insulting people, yes, heh ;-). > > People often take stabs at you and I often respond with an insult before > they leave...... > > I know it is a moment of instant rage, but thus far I agree with it more > than my behaviour of the past. I never insulted people. > > This means that today, I am more often in the situation that I cannot > count on certain people anymore. They would not help me because I have > insulted them. > > Had I held my tongue, they would still be helping me but I would suffer > for it. More. > > So for today I prefer to be alone and without help rather than be with > help but not make myself clear. > > It is also impatience, and expressing something faster, perhaps. > > > >> I understand it is your way of talking. It is, to a big extent, that >> of many of my fellow countrymen, too. (And mine. Spanish is a rich >> language in insults). Yet you say that I'm very polite. Thus you will >> understand what an effort of self restraint it is to me to not only be >> polite but appear to be so ;-) >> >> And in a different language and for an international audience! >> >> And being externally polite, but with un-polite back-meaning is, I >> learned recently, called "being passive-aggressive", something which >> I'm unable to detect. My failure. > > It's not your failure. Passive aggressive is not a flaw. It is a way to > deal with a stronger opponent. If you cannot resist or rebel in any > obvious way, you will do so with more subtle means. > > Actually it is those times when you were not passive-aggresive that they > now (also) hold against you. > > When you made visible stabs. > > In general we can say that your natural mode of behaviour is something > that works for you. > > If you change it, or follow someone else's advice, you lose the > integration of your person. You will start to act in ways that are not > congruent with who you are. > > So first advice is always: stay who you are. Don't deviate from it. > Don't follow advice from another person. Don't do it if you wouldn't > have done it yourself. > > >> My native way of talking would be the contrary: speak rough, but with >> kind meaning. We can tell someone lovingly "son of a bitch" (hijo de >> puta, hdp, hideputa), and it is not (always) an insult (a mother can >> tell that to her son, lovingly). But the same words can be a huge >> insult depending on the tone and real intent. Complicated, is it not? >> >> >> Well, I ask you to be as polite as you possibly can. Rough handling >> others will not help me. I know how difficult it can be ;-) > > Alright but I often cannot hold my tongue. It is just impossible ;-). > > >> And it might be an excuse to ban others :-( > > I am more hungry than concerned with being banned somewhere or not :-/. > > > I guess these are rather first-world problems for me. > > I usually don't even have food these days. > > So don't mind me, but I do not have patience or time for being "polite". > > Regards... > -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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