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[opensuse] Boot log on 12.1
by Robert Rawlinson 29 Aug '12

29 Aug '12

I was familiar with where the boot.log was in 11.4 but I can't seem to find one in 12.1. I assume the name has been changed and I can't find it. Thanks! Bob R -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] zypper update confusing message
by lynn 29 Aug '12

29 Aug '12

Hi, if I run: zypper update Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... The following package updates will NOT be installed: bind bind-chrootenv bind-libs bind-utils bootsplash-branding-openSUSE <snip> The following packages are going to be upgraded: akonadi akregator amarok <snip> I have e.g. bind installed. Why does the update state that it will NOT be installed? It implies that it will be removed. Confused. Thanks, L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] routing problems two network card with 2 different networks.
by Boyd Lynn Gerber 29 Aug '12

29 Aug '12

Hi, CenturyLink has forced me to get a fiber connect using their DSL because my 9+ yr old one is contantly crashing an has anywhere from 20-90% packect loss. So I am trying to get both to work at the same time. I have been forced to put the DSL Modem a C1000A into bridged mode. Could not get the yast2 dsl to work. So I configured pppoe to work. When I do a pppoe-start and then add the estra routes with the route command I finally get to the netstat -nr for the 168.103.176.54 right below. This allows 168.103.176.54 to go out to the internet anywhere. But incoming stops at 168.103.176.54, But 168.103.176.54 is able to ping and connect and do anything from any in the IP blocks below. Puclick IP's purchased from CenturyLink. 168.103.176.48 All 0's (reserved) 168.103.176.49 168.103.176.50 168.103.176.51 168.103.176.52 168.103.176.53 168.103.176.54 Gateway or should be. 168.103.176.55 All 1's (reserved) openSUSE 12.1 machine using IP address 168.103.176.54 netstat -nr Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 0.0.0.0 67.41.239.69 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 ppp0 0.0.0.0 168.103.176.54 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth1 0.0.0.0 67.41.239.69 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 ppp0 67.41.239.69 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 ppp0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo 168.103.176.48 168.103.176.54 255.255.255.248 UG 0 0 0 eth1 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 198.60.105.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 openSUSE 12.1 machine using IP address 198.60.105.2 and 168.103.176.52 on same nic. Only has one nic in machine. Everything stops at the gateway. IP address 168.103.176.54 when default is set to this gateway. I am able to do anything on the gateway 168.103.176.54 all the others from this machine only ping and traceroute works. netstat -nr Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 0.0.0.0 168.103.176.54 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo 168.103.176.48 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.248 U 0 0 0 eth0 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 198.60.105.0 198.60.105.2 255.255.255.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 When I change the gateway to 198.60.105.2 Everything works except the CenturyLink IP's other than the .54. I am able to ping and traceroute to the CenturyLink Ip's but unable to bring up other services. The 198.60.105.2 has problems because of what CenturyLink has done to this DSL link. netstat -nr Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 168.103.176.48 168.103.176.54 255.255.255.248 UG 0 0 0 eth0 168.103.176.48 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.248 U 0 0 0 eth0 198.60.105.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 198.60.105.2 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 So, I now need to make changes to the routes on 168.103.176.54 to some how get outside to go beyond the gateway 168.103.176.54 and to allow internal to go out just like the gateway 168.103.175.54. And the internal using CenturyLink IP's to use all services. Thanks, in advance for any ideas. -- Boyd Gerber <gerberb(a)zenez.com> 801 849-0213 ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Router firewall vs openSUSE firewall
by Bob Williams 29 Aug '12

29 Aug '12

Hi, My system is openSUSE 12.1 running KDE 4.9 behind a NAT router (Draytek 2800v) which incorporates its own configurable firewall. I'm also running a minidlna server linked through the router to my Blueray player. When I disable the openSUSE firewall, I can browse the directories on my computer from the TV and view/play media files. If I enable the openSUSE firewall, the server is not seen. Is it safe to rely on the router firewall alone, combined with NAT, always accepting that safety is a relative term? Conversely, has anyone successfully set up minidlna through the openSUSE firewall, and if so, what settings did you use? Bob -- Bob Williams System: Linux 3.1.10-1.16-desktop Distro: openSUSE 12.1 (x86_64) with KDE Development Platform: 4.9.00 "release 555" Uptime: 06:00am up 16 days 7:10, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.08, 0.12 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Hotel Router drops Wifi connection
by Mark Misulich 28 Aug '12

28 Aug '12

>> Hi, >> I am at a hotel where I can connect to their wireless hotel router with >> Linux. However, I lose the connection about every 30 seconds to every >> couple of minutes. I can reconnect again and then I am good until it >> drops out again. This happens both with network manager and with > ifup. >> I am using opensuse 11.4 and kde 4.8.5 release 521. I am using Firefox >> as the browser, but I also tried to use Konqueror with the identity >> changed to IE7 just in case that might help to fix things. That also >> did not help. >> >> I have tried to check google and didn't really come up with anything >> useful to solve this issue. >> >> When I run Win7 instead of opensuse, the connection is stable and >> doesn't disconnect like it does with linux. >> >> Any ideas about what I might try to get linux working well? > > Are you sure it doesn't just need a keepalive? Does it drop you in the > middle of traffic as well? > > Often just keeping the connection busy is enough > > Anders No, it drops the connection when it is in the middle of update downloads, or watching videos, or listening to audio. It seems as if it is something to do with a difference between linux and windows provided information to the router. Technical support here isn't any help, they aren't knowledgeable about linux nor their router system. I spent about two hours with them the last time I stayed in this hotel trying to figure out what was the problem. It was a complete waste of time. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Router firewall vs openSUSE firewall
by Billie Walsh 28 Aug '12

28 Aug '12

On 08/28/2012 06:49 AM, James Knott wrote: > Bob Williams wrote: >> Is it safe to rely on the router firewall alone, combined with NAT, >> always accepting that safety is a relative term? > > Well, many commercial boxes run on Linux or BSD. > > My firewall/router is openSUSE 11.4 on an old Compaq computer. Of course, security in depth can be more secure than a single layer. > My only thought is, "How bad would someone want to get into your system?" Here at home we just rely on the routers firewall. We run the cheap Cisco/Linksys routers with the DDWRT software. It's a bit better than the standard Linksys software. We turn off broadcast for wireless. That way the system is not visible to a casual scan. There's nothing here that would warrant someone spending an excessive amount of time hacking into. -- A veteran is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to ‘The United States of America’ for any amount, up to and including their life. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: Router firewall vs openSUSE firewall
by Joachim Schrod 28 Aug '12

28 Aug '12

James Knott wrote: > Bob Williams wrote: >> Some time ago I looked at /var/log/messages and was amazed to see >> someone was running a script to try and get through port 22. Of >> course, >> sshd rejected every attempt, but it prompted me to move ssh to a >> different port. > > Changing port numbers doesn't buy you a lot of security. It makes firewall logs manageable again, and that adds a lot of security. I can now better see low-speed attacks (one try every few minutes, using real user ids from the system) which were hidden before. > On the > other hand, using public/private keys provides much more security > than passwords. That's a given and independent. Nevertheless I want to know about low-speed attacks as mentioned above. It means that somebody starts to get more serious about break-in attempts. Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod, Roedermark, Germany Email: jschrod(a)acm.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: zypper update confusing message
by Joachim Schrod 28 Aug '12

28 Aug '12

lynn wrote: > Hi, if I run: > > zypper update > Loading repository data... > Reading installed packages... > > The following package updates will NOT be installed: > bind bind-chrootenv bind-libs bind-utils > bootsplash-branding-openSUSE > <snip> > The following packages are going to be upgraded: > akonadi akregator amarok > <snip> > > I have e.g. bind installed. Why does the update state that it will > NOT be installed? Others answered this. To add: Reasons for not installing an update are most often (a) a vendor change, and seldomly (b) missing dependencies, e.g., because it's either not there, or a dependency would need a vendor change to be installed. I would very much like to have a command line option to zypper up that just outputs (b) cases, but that's not available, to my knowledge. After all, if I would have wanted a vendor change, I would have used zypper dup. So, in my nightly check for updates, I have a script that checks for each "NOT installed" update if it's known why it cannot be upgraded, and warns me if new packages appear in that list. Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod, Roedermark, Germany Email: jschrod(a)acm.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Hotel Router drops Wifi connection
by Mark Misulich 28 Aug '12

28 Aug '12

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Anders Johansson <ajohansson(a)suse.com> wrote: > On Tuesday 28 August 2012 12:30:33 Mark Misulich wrote: >> Hi, >> I am at a hotel where I can connect to their wireless hotel router with >> Linux. However, I lose the connection about every 30 seconds to every >> couple of minutes. I can reconnect again and then I am good until it >> drops out again. This happens both with network manager and with > ifup. >> I am using opensuse 11.4 and kde 4.8.5 release 521. I am using Firefox >> as the browser, but I also tried to use Konqueror with the identity >> changed to IE7 just in case that might help to fix things. That also >> did not help. >> >> I have tried to check google and didn't really come up with anything >> useful to solve this issue. >> >> When I run Win7 instead of opensuse, the connection is stable and >> doesn't disconnect like it does with linux. >> >> Any ideas about what I might try to get linux working well? > > Are you sure it doesn't just need a keepalive? Does it drop you in the > middle of traffic as well? > > Often just keeping the connection busy is enough > > Anders I forgot to mention in my previous reply that if I connect with Windows, the connection can remain dormant for hours and as soon as I reinitiate browsing there is an immediate response. The wireless connection stays active the whole time. The windows wireless connection is never dropped as the suse wireless connection is. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Hotel Router drops Wifi connection
by Mark Misulich 28 Aug '12

28 Aug '12

Hi, I am at a hotel where I can connect to their wireless hotel router with Linux. However, I lose the connection about every 30 seconds to every couple of minutes. I can reconnect again and then I am good until it drops out again. This happens both with network manager and with ifup. I am using opensuse 11.4 and kde 4.8.5 release 521. I am using Firefox as the browser, but I also tried to use Konqueror with the identity changed to IE7 just in case that might help to fix things. That also did not help. I have tried to check google and didn't really come up with anything useful to solve this issue. When I run Win7 instead of opensuse, the connection is stable and doesn't disconnect like it does with linux. Any ideas about what I might try to get linux working well? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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