July 1999 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[SuSE Linux] I need an APOP email program.
by erd77＠netscape.net 16 Aug '99

16 Aug '99

Could anyone point me in the right direction to find an APOP email program to both send and recieve. ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at <A HREF="http://webmail.netscape.com"><A HREF="http://webmail.netscape.com</A">http://webmail.netscape.com</A</A>>. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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Clock skewed
by michael.norman1＠which.net 03 Aug '99

03 Aug '99

Hi all When I try to recompile the kernel I get a message saying the clock is skewed and the build may not work. What does this mean and how can I fix it ? I am running SuSe 6.1 with kernel 2.2.5. Thanks Mike

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kernel compile error
by bernieg＠110.net 02 Aug '99

02 Aug '99

I am trying to compile a kernel (2.2.7 from SuSe 6.1) to provide the scssi emulation for ide r/w cdroms. I don't think I selected anything odd, and have new, relatively standard install of SuSE 6.1, but I get the following error from the final link phase of the compilation: init/main.o(.data.init+0x1d4): undefined reference to `md_setup' drivers/block/block.a(genhd.o): In function `device_setup': genhd.o(.text.init+0x10a): undefined reference to `md_setup_drive' make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1 Any help would be greatly appreciated. Bernie Gardner bernieg(a)110.net

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Re: [SLE] Gnome 1.0
by dhonzik＠yahoo.com 02 Aug '99

02 Aug '99

Nick, I already tried that and it didn't work. Any other suggestions would be aprrieciated. Daniel Honzik SuSE 6.1 Linux 2.2.10 --- Nick Zentena <zentena(a)hophead.dyndns.org> wrote: > Daniel Honzik wrote: > > > > How does anyone know how to initiate Gnome on SuSE > Linux 6.1? I tried > > startx gnome, but that didn't work...do I need to > change some settings > > in some system file? I would like the ability to > run both KDE and Gnome > > if possible > > > Assuming you are using the graphical login screen > you can add gnome to > the list of choices. This way everytime you login > you can choose. Login > to root and edit the login manager from KDE control > centre. I think > that's it. I'm not running root right now. All you > need to do is add > gnome to the list. > > Nick > > -- > --------------------- > Nick Zentena > SuSE 6.1 Linux 2.2.10 > --------------------- > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com > For additional commands, e-mail: > suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com > > <hr size=1><b>Do You Yahoo!?</b>Free instant messaging and more with Yahoo! Messenger.<br>

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USB
by dhonzik＠yahoo.com 01 Aug '99

01 Aug '99

Does Linux support USB? If not, will future kernel support this feature? I have a USB scanner that maybe one day would like to use on Linux Daniel Honzik SuSE 6.1 Kernel 2.2.10 KDE 1.1.1 _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com

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F keys ?
by hatridge＠straubing.baynet.de 01 Aug '99

01 Aug '99

Hi All, Is there anyway to bind a command to an F-key? For example, I use the command "fetchpop -r -p -a" to get my email. It would be nice just to be able to hit "F-x" to run this commmand. At the command line by the way, not in X-windows. TIA! JIM

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xusermgr
by dhonzik＠yahoo.com 01 Aug '99

01 Aug '99

Is xusermgr avaible for SuSE Linux? I saw mention of it in the book called "A Practical Guide to Linux" by Mark Sobell. A book I would reconmend to any newbie or experience user of Linux. Daniel Honzik SuSE Linux 6.1 Kerneld 2.2.10 KDE 1.1.1 _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com

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RE: [suse-linux-e] Hardware activity causes speaker noise
by Scott.Worley＠COMPAQ.com 01 Aug '99

01 Aug '99

Rafael, Have you adjusted all the volume levels for the inputs? I've noticed OSS defaults the MIC and LINE-IN inputs to about 2/3 maximum volume. The noise could be picked up by these inputs. Once the volumes are adjusted with a mixer, use savemixer in the OSS directory to make these the defaults when OSS starts. cott worley Compaq Portables scott.worley(a)compaq.com -----Original Message----- From: Rafael E. Herrera [mailto:raffo@neuronet.pitt.edu] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 1:27 AM Cc: SLE Subject: [suse-linux-e] Hardware activity causes speaker noise Hi, I'm running SuSE 6.0 with a Linux kernel version 2.2.10 and the 4Front OSS sound drivers. I get noise from the speakers when I type, move the mouse and access the hard drive. This occur even if I turn off the sound drivers. Does anybody have any clues about this? I don't get these noises when I boot the win98 partition. Thanks. -- Rafael Herrera Laboratory for Computational Neuroscience University of Pittsburgh http://www.neuronet.pitt.edu/~raffo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com

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KDE -- and who should own X?
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 01 Aug '99

01 Aug '99

Folks, (If you get this, it'll be because I've worked round, in an evil way, a very nasty problem with SuSE's ezmlm list server. I've taken it up with suse-linux-e-owner, but have heard nothing yet ... ) I've been musing a bit about X, users, Linux and KDE. The underlying situation which prompted it is the fact that, unlike a traditional UNIX user with, say, an X terminal to a server where you log on as yourself etc, Linux users are often both user and sysadmin for their own Linux box. For instance, I'm "root" for sysadmin; "ted" for work, "efh" for mail. However, I like to start X as root (for various reasons). So root owns the X display. Other users can make their own xterms as themselves very easily, so when working within a user-xterm one does not encounter the dangers of being root. This however has a few consequences. One is that anything done by clicking on the "background" (i.e. the X root window) is done as user "root". However, this is not a major issue. What is causing me a bit of thought just now is the use of the KDE desktop environment. If you want to get the best out of this, you will set up task-bar icons for various programs to which you can drag-and-drop file/directory icons from the file-manager, etc. However, in the circumstances described, the programs which are started up by the task-bar icons are run owned by root. This is _not_ convenient! One would like the program to be run owned by the user who owns the file/directory it is working on. In fact, there's a similar problem if X had been started by an ordinary user: this user would be the owner of the program, and would not be able to access anything outside their own permission-space. At least root has that freedom! So what I'm wondering, is whether (perhaps as a future development in X and/or KDE) is would be possible to -- to coin a phrase -- "chown" the mouse, so to speak. So what I'm wondering, is whether (perhaps as a future development in X and/or KDE) is would be possible to -- to coin a phrase -- "chown" the mouse, so to speak. As one notional implementation of the idea, you could have a drop-down menu of available users, click on a user, and then this would "su" the mouse/X display/KDE desktop/whatever. Then when you dragged a file (to which as the new user you would have access) onto a task-bar icon, that program would run suid the new user. This would solve the problems which arise when trying to use KDE as it should be used. Now I know that people are going to spit at me for suggesting something which is about as secure as a bank which has been left unlocked at night. And I agree that it would be no good in the standard public-LAN environment. But -- and this is the special character of Linux -- a lot of Linux usage is by people who have a few boxes on a "domestic" LAN, or even only one box, where there's no problem at all with security in the sense of taking precautions against people you don't know or trust. Such people are not around, and taking precautions against them makes no sense. The only thing you need to watch is carelessness. And when you're running stuff as "root" which you'd rather not run as "root", carelessness is definitely something to watch. In short, a lot of Linux users are having their scope curtailed by irrelevant security issues. This question would never have arisen in the "tradtional" UNIX environment, where security is a necessary headache; and it remains the same headache where Linux is used in the same environments as a UNIX substitute. But for Linux users in a safe environment, I think we need the capability to greatly relax the security restrictions. In the console (terminal) environment, it's easy to log in on different VCs as different users. These can then start their own Xterms in root's X display, and for work in an Xterm there's then no problem. This is what I've been doing for years (about 7 to be precise). However, as described above, you hit a clash when your interaction with the system is not by command-lines typed into an Xterm but by mouse actions on an X display or Desktop Environment like KDE, especially when it's drag-n-drop. So, there it is. A few thoughts. Comments? Suggestions? Thanks, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Date: 30-Jul-99 Time: 13:54:26 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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Cyrix M2-300 a "good" CPU for a SuSE Linux Box?
by creimer＠rahul.net 01 Aug '99

01 Aug '99

Hi! Awhile back I had my contract terminated when my boss' new boss did a reorganization of the QA-hardware department and came to the remarkable conclusion that he needed only people who had management potential and not grunts. (As the only grunt in the department, I did all the work that nobody else wanted to do with a remarkable level of excellance and without compliant... BUT I'm no butt kisser.) Now, my boss felt really bad about letting me go since he been promising for a better part of the year to hire me permament but haven't been able to, and his boss rejected his request to give me three-weeks of additional pay. A couple of days later I got a package in the mail from my old boss with a Cyrix M2-300 and an Asus SP97-V motherboard (a freebie that my boss gets from his Cyrix contacts) as compensation for my abrupt termination. I'm wondering if this CPU/motherboard combination would make for a good general-purpose workstation since it is a freebie? I will be installing SuSE 6.2 when it comes out in a couple of weeks. I could get a new box built using either a K6-2/3 or Celeron CPU, but I would have to wait several months before I can have that system up and running. Or, should I simply hand this combo off to my retired parents as an Windows Internet box? Thanks! Christopher Reimer

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