-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2015-10-17 10:24, Richard Brown wrote:
This entire mindset of "We're translators, we're just going to do our thing our way, and the entire project has to accept it" (with the implicit threat of "or else we won't translate anything") is not conductive for a collaborative volunteer community
With that mindset, sure, you are 'doing' your little part of the big picture, and sure, you get to 'decide' how you do that..but if you want to fence yourself off from the rest of the project, if you want to ignore that the Project is now focused on rolling release and hybrid release, both of which means translations have to be handled differently, you cannot be surprised when 'they' (the rest of the Project) go and 'do and decide' something else.
Don't you see? Replace the word "translators" with "developers", and then you have "reality".
My ideal world is one in which the people who currently consider themselves 'Translators' are no longer saying 'we can't do that because...' and instead learning the skills, which in this case includes both communication and technical skills,
No way. You can't have that. Hint: how many developers write good documentation? Another hint: how many developers participate in forums with plain users?
I'd also say my ideal world would include the people you consider to be 'Devs' to try and make steps from the other direction, and try to learn the skills, provide tooling,
As a matter of fact, we did. We contributed tools.
But to be totally blunt, I'd actually look totally past that, if the _output_ of the translation team was effective. If we had half-decent translations of our two distributions, Tumbleweed or Leap,
But that is not our fault. It is "yours". Hint: I used some "" with some purpose... - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlYiHlsACgkQtTMYHG2NR9U3NACglZhibr7Plz0BQCpLQzPlZjwt eBsAmgJ2322v6dSe4LnHshXx8H/qyyQC =AVRa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-translation+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-translation+owner@opensuse.org