Hello fellow testers, according to http://en.opensuse.org/Roadmap , RC1 is going to be released in 4 days. My automated install tests showed all 4 main install-methods (DVD,NET,KDE,GNOME) working on both 32 and 64 bit... but only on hardware emulated by KVM. Also application tests were rather limited. So if you have a spare partition or computer, you could try to install any of the current (Build0669+) isos and report major bugs ASAP via http://bugs.opensuse.org to ensure a smooth experience for the less technical RC1 testers. You can get isos from http://download.opensuse.org/factory/iso/ DVD isos at my server: http://mirror.zq1.de/opensuse/factory/iso/ Note: if you use NET iso version, you need to press F4 on bootloader and edit the path to /factory/repo/oss - similar to what can be seen on http://www3.zq1.de/opensuse/video/openSUSE-NET-x86_64-Build0669.ogv otherwise you would get MS7 in spite of the current build number. I have been told that after RC2 only release-critical bugs will be fixed. That means that anything that will not prevent installation or software-updates, will not be adressed before the final release. So if you want to test 11.3, now is a good time. You might also want to check out http://lizards.opensuse.org/category/quality-assurance/ Ciao Bernhard M. -- This mail was written on openSUSE Factory -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
skrev Bernhard M. Wiedemann:
Hello fellow testers,
according to http://en.opensuse.org/Roadmap , RC1 is going to be released in 4 days. My automated install tests showed all 4 main install-methods (DVD,NET,KDE,GNOME) working on both 32 and 64 bit... but only on hardware emulated by KVM. Also application tests were rather limited.
So if you have a spare partition or computer, you could try to install any of the current (Build0669+) isos and report major bugs ASAP via http://bugs.opensuse.org to ensure a smooth experience for the less technical RC1 testers.
You can get isos from http://download.opensuse.org/factory/iso/
Well, I wasn't able to install any of two i586 M7 iso Build 0625 available at http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.3-Milestone7/iso/ 1) Trying to install the i586 DVD with Gnome desktop, caused after disk image Gnome [1] a YaST2 wrong checksum error 2) Trying to install the i586 NET iso, caused a Welcome warning that YaST was unable to find the correct control file, therefore using a fall-back one. Thereafter error cannot read license file. However, the shortly later available Factory NET iso Build0657 installed fine on the same computer. Therefore I expected the errors on the Build 0625 iso were found and fixed, and I didn't file any bug report here. On the other hand I have two other bug reports for 11.3 that I'm not satisfied with the interest in or activity to solve Bug 590960 - SDHC freeze Bug 593871 - CDMA not working Rgds, Terje J. Hanssen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
Le 13/06/2010 13:12, Bernhard M. Wiedemann a écrit :
So if you have a spare partition or computer, you could try to install any of the current (Build0669+)
new install, with absolutely no problem (same computer as before, bits, Gb ram) the delay I observed before was probably not openSUSE related :-( this time I installed kde and I'm writing from this install, I plan to keep using thanks jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
Le 13/06/2010 13:12, Bernhard M. Wiedemann a écrit :
So if you have a spare partition or computer, you could try to install any of the current (Build0669+)
well... some problems * hal is quoted "to be started" in YaST, but is *not* started. One have to start it by hand (rchal start, or with YaST) to have it work. This is a real problem (no devices found) * k3b is *not* 2.0 as advertised, that mean it don't know how to burn BD I know "K3b 1.69.0 alpha4 released" on k3b web site, but will 2.0 ready in time? thanks jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
Le 14/06/2010 09:38, jdd a écrit :
Le 13/06/2010 13:12, Bernhard M. Wiedemann a écrit :
So if you have a spare partition or computer, you could try to install any of the current (Build0669+)
well...
some problems
ntp problem: "impossible to update the dynamic configuration" 14 Jun 09:29:59 ntpd[8055]: synchronized to LOCAL(0), stratum 10 14 Jun 09:29:59 ntpd[8055]: kernel time sync status change 2001 14 Jun 09:40:05 ntpd[8055]: ntpd exiting on signal 15 14 Jun 09:42:48 ntpd[9372]: ntpd exiting on signal 15 14 Jun 09:43:32 ntpd[9593]: ntpd exiting on signal 15 jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
Le 14/06/2010 09:38, jdd a écrit :
* hal is quoted "to be started" in YaST, but is *not* started. One have to start it by hand (rchal start, or with YaST) to have it work. This is a real problem (no devices found)
bug #613898 jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 14 June 2010 09:59:35 jdd wrote:
Le 14/06/2010 09:38, jdd a écrit :
* hal is quoted "to be started" in YaST, but is *not* started. One have to start it by hand (rchal start, or with YaST) to have it work. This is a real problem (no devices found)
bug #613898
Thanks - was too fast in answering ;) Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Monday 14 June 2010 09:38:16 jdd wrote:
* hal is quoted "to be started" in YaST, but is not started. One have to start it by hand (rchal start, or with YaST) to have it work. This is a real problem (no devices found)
Where do we still need hal? It should be obsoleted in 11.3. Please file a bugreport if anything is not working, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Le 14/06/2010 10:27, Andreas Jaeger a écrit :
Where do we still need hal? It should be obsoleted in 11.3. Please file a bugreport if anything is not working,
I read about this, but k3b asks for it and dolphin don't see any disk. The kde4 plasmoid don't see any device (with hal or without) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://www.facebook.com/pages/I-support-the-Linux-Documentation-Project/3720... http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-fan-page-of-Claire-Dodin/106485119372062?v... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
Hello, Am Sonntag, 13. Juni 2010 13:12:27 schrieb Bernhard M. Wiedemann:
Hello fellow testers,
according to http://en.opensuse.org/Roadmap , RC1 is going to be released in 4 days. My automated install tests showed all 4 main install-methods (DVD,NET,KDE,GNOME) working on both 32 and 64 bit... but only on hardware emulated by KVM. Also application tests were rather limited.
So if you have a spare partition or computer, you could try to install any of the current (Build0669+) isos and report major bugs ASAP via http://bugs.opensuse.org to ensure a smooth experience for the less technical RC1 testers.
You can get isos from http://download.opensuse.org/factory/iso/ DVD isos at my server: http://mirror.zq1.de/opensuse/factory/iso/
On my system Intel DX58SO it is possible the first time to install openSUSE 11.3M7 ;) But i lost the DVD after reconfigure the PartitionTable !! I have to eject and reload the DVD then the installation is working ? A other problem after this, I have bad search noises from my DVD Writer an have to wait any time ? Known Problems ? -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards, Günther J. Niederwimmer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
On my M7 x86_64 dual core laptop installation I think when the machine stays idle for some time the CPU load and fan begin higher activity. A few months ago even more activity (one cpu up to 100% constant load) happened on SLED 11 after an upgrade of the X server. Possibly it was a screen saver that caused the problem. Any similar experience on M7? Rgds, Terje -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Terje,
On my M7 x86_64 dual core laptop installation I think when the machine stays idle for some time the CPU load and fan begin higher activity.
A few months ago even more activity (one cpu up to 100% constant load) happened on SLED 11 after an upgrade of the X server. Possibly it was a screen saver that caused the problem.
Any similar experience on M7?
Can you see in the process list (e.a. using "top"-command) what causes the load? Best wishes, Holgi -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEARECAAYFAkwXbM4ACgkQ539IWoEy06VfzgCdFXaoq3fcs1uewI/1pPmYrmgO PacAn2CPfebyVSDrsl3/+rfG9siTfSmq =nGvv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
--- On Tue, 6/15/10, Holger Sickenberg
From: Holger Sickenberg
Any similar experience on M7?
Can you see in the process list (e.a. using "top"-command) what causes the load?
I've seen it on various distros on my HP dv9000z Athlon64 X2 laptop, and it was usually caused by a Java applet running a screen crawler or other small moving object, or by a runaway browser object (such as an Adobe PDF plug-in) that lost its mind and never actually appeared. I haven't stumbled across it in M7 yet, but will give it a try to determine if M7 exhibits anything unique/different. My M7 installation is 32-bit even though I have a 64 bit laptop, so my test "matrix" is quite limited. Bayard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
Hi Holgi,
Hi Terje,
On my M7 x86_64 dual core laptop installation I think when the machine stays idle for some time the CPU load and fan begin higher activity.
A few months ago even more activity (one cpu up to 100% constant load) happened on SLED 11 after an upgrade of the X server. Possibly it was a screen saver that caused the problem.
Any similar experience on M7?
Can you see in the process list (e.a. using "top"-command) what causes the load?
1) Yes, using top the following cpu loads and processes arise: 51% beagled 38% dbus-daemon 22% hald As seen these eat 'one whole' of two cpu's on my relative highend HP Compac 8710w mobile workstation with Intel Core 2 Duo CPU T9500 2.6 GHz, 3.8 GiB memory The cpu load fell down again when I start to use the machine again. 2) On another, (old and slow) AMD K7 stationary PC, model MS-6195, 500 MiB memory, with M7 i586 installed, top shows another variant the first minutes after login to Gnome: 96% cpu load for the prepare_preload process Rgds, Terje -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Terje,
On my M7 x86_64 dual core laptop installation I think when the machine stays idle for some time the CPU load and fan begin higher activity.
A few months ago even more activity (one cpu up to 100% constant load) happened on SLED 11 after an upgrade of the X server. Possibly it was a screen saver that caused the problem.
Any similar experience on M7?
Can you see in the process list (e.a. using "top"-command) what causes the load?
1) Yes, using top the following cpu loads and processes arise:
51% beagled 38% dbus-daemon 22% hald
As seen these eat 'one whole' of two cpu's on my relative highend HP Compac 8710w mobile workstation with Intel Core 2 Duo CPU T9500 2.6 GHz, 3.8 GiB memory The cpu load fell down again when I start to use the machine again.
OK, so maybe someone from the gnome team can answer what's happening there. My guess would be that Beagle is collecting data for its search index.
2) On another, (old and slow) AMD K7 stationary PC, model MS-6195, 500 MiB memory, with M7 i586 installed, top shows another variant the first minutes after login to Gnome:
96% cpu load for the prepare_preload process
I have no idea what prepare_preload is doing. Best wishes, Holgi -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEARECAAYFAkwYpHMACgkQ539IWoEy06WxzwCdH0hd0U2mjzhDyBZQW57YpvTG bzMAnikWay89Nn2X20v50O2LeoBzuRbx =cKyv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
Am 15.06.2010 18:06, schrieb Terje J. Hanssen:
Hi Holgi,
Hi Terje,
On my M7 x86_64 dual core laptop installation I think when the machine stays idle for some time the CPU load and fan begin higher activity.
A few months ago even more activity (one cpu up to 100% constant load) happened on SLED 11 after an upgrade of the X server. Possibly it was a screen saver that caused the problem.
Any similar experience on M7?
Can you see in the process list (e.a. using "top"-command) what causes the load?
1) Yes, using top the following cpu loads and processes arise:
51% beagled 38% dbus-daemon 22% hald
As seen these eat 'one whole' of two cpu's on my relative highend HP Compac 8710w mobile workstation with Intel Core 2 Duo CPU T9500 2.6 GHz, 3.8 GiB memory The cpu load fell down again when I start to use the machine again.
I have two possible explanations for the load going down when you use the machine: a) CPU is clocked down while there is not much to do... check with "grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo" or b) the jobs are scheduled with "idle" priority - not sure how to check Do not forget to file a bug, when you encounter odd behaviour. I dont expect many of the devs to read here (opensuse-factory is better for that). == Also in the News == On factory ML, coolo wrote that Build0675 will probably be anounced as RC1 soon. I already have the isos and corresponding test videos available on http://www3.zq1.de/opensuse/ GNOME/KDE/NET isos also on official mirrors: http://download.opensuse.org/factory/iso/ issues still open on my watchlist: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=612143 i686 LiveCDs (random boot fail) https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613820 yast2 wagon https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613823 Promo DVD https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613824 KDE https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613898 hal/KDE https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=610199 KDE There is certainly more to get right before RC2. Please test and file bugs. Ciao Bernhard M. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org
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Holger Sickenberg -
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Terje J. Hanssen